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Old 01-03-2019, 10:59 AM
 
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You're playing word games here. Millions do it every day, they are those who work for between the current federal minimum wage of $7.25/hr to maybe $10/hr
You are kidding right?

At $7.5 per hour, one would make $1200 a month. In most of the world, that’s filthy rich.

With $1200 a month, you can’t cover food and shelter?

Somehow I come to the conclusion that you don’t want work but still want other people’s money and you will get it one way or another.
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Old 01-03-2019, 11:00 AM
 
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Fund public assistance programs via voluntary donations only, and you instantly eradicate a major dispute in the supposed class war.
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Old 01-03-2019, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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You are kidding right?

At $7.5 per hour, one would make $1200 a month. In most of the world, that’s filthy rich.

With $1200 a month, you can’t cover food and shelter?

Somehow I come to the conclusion that you don’t want work but still want other people’s money and you will get it one way or another.
Most of the world isn't the US; most of the world doesn't have nearly as high a COL as the US. $1,200/month, which is less than $1k take home is bupkus. I make that in one week (yes, I work FYI)
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Old 01-03-2019, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Fund public assistance programs via voluntary donations only, and you instantly eradicate a major dispute in the supposed class war.
You can't do that, because if the "donors" decide they want to blow the money on luxuries for themselves instead of donating, no one can stop them, and I guess the poor die that month.....
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Old 01-03-2019, 11:04 AM
 
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You can't do that, because if the "donors" decide they want to blow the money on luxuries for themselves instead of donating, no one can stop them, and I guess the poor die that month.....
The poor don't have to die. They can simply live within their means, instead.
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Old 01-03-2019, 11:05 AM
 
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They could back when most good jobs didn't require advanced degrees that take years of study, hundreds of thousands of dollars in tuition and high IQ.....
Amen.

My perspective would be different if we were flush with decent living wage secure jobs for anyone who wanted one. Now you have to jump through hoops, get into debt to qualify, even then jobs are not secure.
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Old 01-03-2019, 11:07 AM
 
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The poor don't have to die. They can simply live within their means, instead.
You say this, but how does one live within their means when their means won't afford both food and shelter; just be working homeless?
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Old 01-03-2019, 11:07 AM
 
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Amen.

My perspective would be different if we were flush with decent living wage secure jobs for anyone who wanted one. Now you have to jump through hoops, get into debt to qualify, even then jobs are not secure.
Yet many people manage those obstacles quite effectively. That means you have no point.
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Old 01-03-2019, 11:07 AM
 
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I dispute that. For example, Walmart has a less than 2% profit margin, but idiots insist that Walmart can pay higher wages. No, they cannot.

The BIG problem is the proliferation of the welfare class. It's mathematically unsustainable. The bottom 50% pay $48 billion in federal income tax revenue while the public assistance program-dependent population draws $800 billion/year from the US's resources. Reconcile that without CONFISCATING earnings from others.
your are sickening..... I won't address any more of the insanity you repeatedly post.... do your drama spin by yourself..... Hopefully the evil hatred you live for, encircles you into the self obsessed confines you have groomed your mind to spin....
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Old 01-03-2019, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Yet many people manage those obstacles quite effectively. That means you have no pint.
Many =/= all
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