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Trump shutdown the government, the dems refuse to open it....see the difference?
Actually, the Democrats submitted a bi-partisan proposal to reopen the Government and McConnell won't allow a vote on it until Trump gives him the ok. Details are important.
I have posted the comments from the Border Patrol currently on duty and they disagree with everything you have said. It's a lie that all drugs come through legal ports of entry also. It's too risky and young males are used as mules to transport a lot of it through unguarded parts of the border. Get back with us when we stop having thousands still breaching our border every month, will you?
Who said "all" drugs come through legal ports of entry?
No one.
However, the majority of drugs come into this country through legal points of entry, including through those many thousands of miles from the southern border.
Might want to take the blinders off and deal with that particular reality.
"TUCSON — As President Donald Trump pushes Congress to set aside more money to build additional barriers along the U.S.-Mexico border, he frequently, and falsely, claims that his promised wall would help stem the flow of illegal narcotics into the country.
But data from his own administration repeatedly show that a rising number of smuggled drugs, especially more potent ones like heroin and cocaine, are increasingly seized at legal ports of entry, which are not impacted by a wall."
"Generally, the DEA says, fentanyl is shipped to the U.S. in packages directly from China or from China through Canada. Fentanyl is also smuggled across the southern border’s ports of entry."
"Transnational criminal organizations “generally route larger drug shipments destined for the Northeast through the Bahamas and/or South Florida by using a variety of maritime conveyance methods, to include speedboats, fishing vessels, sailboats, yachts, and containerized sea cargo,” the reports reads. “In some cases, Dominican Republic-based traffickers will also transport cocaine into Haiti for subsequent shipment to the United States via the Bahamas and/or South Florida corridor using maritime and air transport.”
... The DEA report does not address the wall but details how drugs enter the country, and many of the examples illustrate that it is not through land routes. “According to DEA reporting, the majority of the heroin available in New Jersey originates in Colombia and is primarily smuggled into the United States by Colombian and Dominican groups via human couriers on commercial flights to the Newark International Airport,” the document states."
""[Now] well over 95% of the drugs are moving on the water via container ships, non-commercial vessels, pleasure boats, sail boats, fishing boats. They also have fast boats which try to outrun our law enforcement assets.
"We've seen growing use of self-propelled semi-submersibles (SPSSs) - low-profile vessels made out of marine-grade plywood [and] fibreglass with commercial engines. The smugglers spend up to a $1m (£665,000) to build one of these SPSSs for what is often just a one-way voyage."
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"The cartels are always looking for a guaranteed way to cross narcotics into the US, and a sophisticated tunnel can allow them to cross large-scale loads. Last month we interdicted a tunnel in San Diego and seized more than 10 tonnes of marijuana.
"Compare that to sending four guys across with 30 pounds of marijuana on their backs, who have to navigate the mountains, evade Border Patrols and arrange delivery, and you can see the difference in profit."
Sure there are still poor people forced into being low level drug mules, but these highly sophisticated organizations are way past risking millions of dollars in goods on individuals more likely to die alone in the desert than to make it across the border successfully.
Time to accept that we are now in the 21st century.
Trump shutdown the government, the dems refuse to open it....see the difference?
Wrong again. Democrats have introduced budget bills. Mitch refuses to bring them up for a vote. Even the one they passed 100-=0 last month. See the difference?
Yes, as soon as Obama became president there were suddenly vast areas along the border where is was not feasible. I wonder why.
It is to the discretion of the head of DHS apparently she feels more is needed. Btw, it was supposed to be a double fence.
Because your president GWB was too ashamed to tell you.
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“Republican leaders wasted time, opportunity, and your money,” Kennedy said. “For a $9 billion fence that won’t do the job. That is just a bumper sticker solution for a complex problem. It’s a feel-good plan that will have little effect in the real world.”
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Not as many as no wall being there.
Or, more than there'd be if they couldn't find jobs allowing them to send $$$ home. But let's not bother the donors who profit from illegal labor, right?
It's as if Trumpies never had a torch.....they are dirt cheap and effective against any steel. A plasma cutter can be as low as $300. When Dump gave up on the Concrete and Glass/Solar he pretty much accepted that it will do nothing.
Of course, there is a reason that he doesn't point out to his "base" in FL and TX that those states should do e-verify tomorrow. That wouldn't look good.
And to think.....that Coyotes who make 40K for a "batch" aren't going to have basic equipment and much more??? - Heck, a crane or a lift can put a LOT of people over quickly. AND, any proposals for "fencing or steel slats" have timelines of a decade or more...to get PART of the job done.
Crazy talk. Remember, once they cross they can ask for asylum. So if they don't stay out you've already lost.
None of this seems to even slightly concern wall types.
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