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View Poll Results: Are you happy with Trump’s deal to reopen the Federal government for 3 weeks?
I’m happy with the deal 41 36.61%
It’s ok 50 44.64%
I’m unhappy with this deal 21 18.75%
Voters: 112. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-13-2019, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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He watches them closely. His big ego can't stand it so then he has to tweet something nasty like a 6th grader.

He is a child. President Putz cant take "not winning" very well. He doesnt deserve 5 cents let alone 5 billion for him to blow on something else. It has nothing to do about a wall.
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Old 01-13-2019, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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How many bodies have to pile up from overdoses, human trafficking, and violent crime before Democrats stop playing politics?
Limbaugh, is that you? Or is this Hannity?
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Old 01-13-2019, 02:20 PM
 
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Limbaugh, is that you? Or is this Hannity?
It's a good question that was asked.

Given your response, I guess you find human trafficking, violent crimes and illegal drugs to be funny. How despicable!
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Old 01-13-2019, 02:21 PM
 
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I love how you let democrats off the hook. Their two "clowns" Pelosi and Schumer could stop it, too.

As for government employees --- most of them know that quitting will be like biting off their noses to spite their faces. Most will never find another job that offers such a generous benefit and retirement package. You do know that when the shutdown is over, they all will get back pay. You did know this, correct?

A border wall is NOT "an enormous waste of money". For the umpteenth time, the wall that Bill Clinton had built on the San Diego/Tijuana border has drastically cut down on crime and illegal crossings. Why do you refuse to acknowledge that fact?

No one is talking about a continuous wall from San Diego to Brownsville, so of course, $5.7 billion isn't needed for that reason as the areas needing a border wall amount to about 550 miles. Thus, $5.7 billion is a good start
Trump said his wall would be about 1,000 miles. Yesterday you said 700. Today it's 550? Maybe tomorrow it'll be less, so Trump will accept less money as we go along.

Back pay can't help when their rent is due tomorrow or they need food for the table. Do you think they want to quit and get another job? Of course not. But they have to live.

Pelosi, Shumer along with the Reps already had a bill in place for Trump to sign. He walked away. Dems passed bills last week to reopen government. Mitch McConnell, in his almost Stockholm syndrome-ish need to protect Trump won't do what he's supposed to do, which is bring it before the Senate. Since when did the Executive branch and the Senate become one and the same?
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Old 01-13-2019, 02:23 PM
 
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How many bodies have to pile up from overdoses, human trafficking, and violent crime before Democrats stop playing politics?
How many mass murders have to be committed before Republicans take up the issue of gun control? Drugs, human trafficking and violent crime aren't just committed by illegals in our country, you know. And many of the drugs that come into this country don't come across the Southern border. We have lots of issues on lots of fronts that need to be addressed. And shame on both parties for not addressing them.
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Old 01-13-2019, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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A couple billion in a current CR , in all likelihood, for border security, ends the shutdown quickly.

$0 CR is not going anywhere towards passage. Get over that fantasy, liberals.

As POTUS 44 said, "Elections have consequences". Like POTUS 45, his party had a majority; Trump has both a GOP Senate plus his veto power here. Pelosi is powerless unless she submits what meets the approval of both the Senate and White House.
The problem is Trump doesn't want just a couple billion, he would have gotten it from the House bill that was originally a Senate bill under the last Congress that now the Senate who nearly passed it unanimously will not see it on the floor. That bill offered just under 2 billion in border funding. Trump wants 5 billion for his wall, not border security but for a wall. A wall that a, he still hasn't figured out a which way to go and b, has seen all prototypes have known design flaws on. You know not of what you speak.

The only reason Congress is pushing for the $0 now is because of the fact that the previous bill is being killed not even in the floor but pocketed by the same Senate President that brought it to a floor vote just weeks ago. The House should go back and veto any bills coming out of the Senate until The Turtle puts one of their bills up to a vote and should open a House investigation into Trump, his children, etc. (based on the Mueller report) if he does not want their CRs. If they are gonna act like children, treat them as such.
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Old 01-13-2019, 02:32 PM
 
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Trump said his wall would be about 1,000 miles. Yesterday you said 700. Today it's 550? Maybe tomorrow it'll be less, so Trump will accept less money as we go along.

Back pay can't help when their rent is due tomorrow or they need food for the table. Do you think they want to quit and get another job? Of course not. But they have to live.

Pelosi, Shumer along with the Reps already had a bill in place for Trump to sign. He walked away. Dems passed bills last week to reopen government. Mitch McConnell, in his almost Stockholm syndrome-ish need to protect Trump won't do what he's supposed to do, which is bring it before the Senate. Since when did the Executive branch and the Senate become one and the same?
I've covered all of this. Why are you repeating the same thing?

Landlords know that there is a furlough and will work with their tenants. To them, it's far preferable to initiating eviction orders.

If they don't have "food for the table", then you must not be aware that local food banks are gladly helping out. Besides, if they make so little that they have trouble putting "food on the table", then, no doubt, they are getting EBT cards already.

You claim to have worked for the government. Then you should know that if they quit, they won't be able to find a job that has such great benefits and a great retirement package. If they want to quit, then I hope they have a better paying job lined up already. You know darn well that once you start a new job, there is a lag between your start date and your first paycheck. Another reason to put money aside for emergencies.

As for the shutdown---it takes two to tango. It's no skin off the dems' back if they approve the funding for the wall. Yet they want to keep letting this drag on so that all those people you claim to care about will continue to suffer. One thing this shows loudly and clearly --- dems care more about illegal aliens than they do about Americans.

BTW, about the length of the wall --- don't twist things. I gave you a link that said 550 miles and admitted I was wrong about 700 miles. Either way, the wall is needed.

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Old 01-13-2019, 02:38 PM
 
Location: In an indoor space
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When Mexico pays for it then Trump can build it. It is that simple. That is what he was saying at all his rallies.

If hypothetically Mexico wrote out a check paying for it, the same people here complaining will still be complaining as they don't want a Trump win - you do know in your heart of hearts that you'll never admit what you wrote is BS only because (this goes for a great majority in this part of the forum) Hillary or Bernie didn't win and you hate Trump. We give billions upon billions each year to countries, but for us = no good to the SJW's, Liberals, Democrats and other Anti-Americans including most of the MSM and also right here in CD political forum land.


Have a great rest of the day!
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Old 01-13-2019, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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If hypothetically Mexico wrote out a check paying for it, the same people here complaining will still be complaining as they don't want a Trump win - you do know in your heart of hearts that you'll never admit what you wrote is BS only because (this goes for a great majority in this part of the forum) Hillary or Bernie didn't win and you hate Trump. We give billions upon billions each year to countries, but for us = no good to the SJW's, Liberals, Democrats and other Anti-Americans including most of the MSM and also right here in CD political forum land.


Have a great rest of the day!
You are wrong, we would be happy to have Mexico pay for that folly. I didn't realize trumps promises were all hypothetical.
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Old 01-13-2019, 02:47 PM
 
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I've covered all of this. Why are you repeating the same thing?

Landlords know that there is a furlough and will work with their tenants. To them, it's far preferable to initiating eviction orders.

If they don't have "food for the table", then you must not be aware that local food banks are gladly helping out. Besides, if they make so little that they have trouble putting "food on the table", then, no doubt, they are getting EBT cards already.

You claim to have worked for the government. Then you should know that if they quit, they won't be able to find a job that has such great benefits and a great retirement package. If they want to quit, then I hope they have a better paying job lined up already. You know darn well that once you start a new job, there is a lag between your start date and your first paycheck. Another reason to put money aside for emergencies.

As for the shutdown---it takes two to tango. It's no skin of the dems' back if they approve the funding for the wall. Yet they want to keep letting this drag on so that all those people you claim to care about will continue to suffer. One thing this shows loudly and clearly --- dems care more about illegal aliens than they do about Americans.

BTW, about the length of the wall --- don't twist things. I gave you a link that said 550 miles and admitted I was wrong about 700 miles. Either way, the wall is needed.
We don't know if all landlords are working with tenants or not. Do you know that? Why are you making such assumptions? If that were the case, the federal works would just be skipping merrily along, not concerned at all about the bills they have to pay or the children they have to provide for. Of course they know they may get a good retirement package (I didn't, but that's not of issue here). They still have responsibilities. In an ideal world, everybody would have a rainy day fund. That's not always possible.

The Dems and Reps agreed on a bill over three weeks ago. Trump walked away. It's on him, as he says he proudly owns it.

You can say what you will, but the majority of Americans want the shutdown to end and talks to continue. And the majority are blaming Trump.
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