*****Trump's gov't SHUTDOWN***** MERGED (illegal, Pelosi, border, illegals)

[Oklazona Bound]

Originally Posted by BobNJ1960

That's fine, as I like limiting govt size, and view 32 days as just the beginning.

Its gonna be interesting as social welfare programs lack the funds their recipients expected in March.

I think the welfare people will pressure the DEMS to give in. As a Libertarian I am fine with this going on for a while and see where it goes.

[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by reed067

Yes it is just getting started but that’s nothing to be happy over as you other statement seemed to indicate

I am happy it may teach a lesson to the House unwilling to compromise.

They should have countered at the midway point, of $2.85B, many weeks ago.

This lesson could prevent hem from no negotiating in good faith again.

Happy 33rd Shutdown Day.

PS: Also happy Americans are seeing firsthand how much govt is oversized. We will, I hope, downsize it to the proper size having seen how little some portions are missed.

[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by Oklazona Bound

I think the welfare people will pressure the DEMS to give in. As a Libertarian I am fine with this going on for a while and see where it goes.

[GotHereQuickAsICould]

"If a President can force a co-equal branch of government to do whatever he wants by shutting down the government, it would permanently alter the checks and balances at the heart of our system." Ben Rhodes

^^This^^

[reed067]

IMO, anyone who justifies this for ANY reasons has some deep issues, There is NO reason why people should have suffer because of our government. Period.

[BobNJ1960]

I doubt any future House leaders will act as recklessly as Pelosi.

[GotHereQuickAsICould]

Strange the way Trump supporters are all about Trump "showing who's boss," "not backing down," etc., but Pelosi is "reckless" when she makes a stand.

Wonder what that's about.

[BeerGeek40]

Originally Posted by reed067

Has anyone considered those who are now retired and getting thier disability, S.S checks? You know the ones who use it to feed themselves and pay bills, etc.

Tell the democrats to start negotiating.

[GotHereQuickAsICould]

Originally Posted by BeerGeek40

Tell the democrats to start negotiating.

By "negotiating" do you mean going along with borrowing billions of dollars to spend on Trump's mystery wall?

That seems like a poor deal for American taxpayers.

[BeerGeek40]

Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould

By "negotiating" do you mean going along with borrowing billions of dollars to spend on Trump's mystery wall?

That seems like a poor deal for American taxpayers.

This is what we call a SMOKESCREEN.

Borrowing 5 billion dollars? Chump change.

I'm more worried about the 20 TRILLION dollars of debt run up by both the democrats and the republicans.