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Old 01-10-2019, 11:48 AM
 
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Wrong. The Coast Guard are getting paid. I guess you missed Trump's tweet updating the media.
They made a special deal to use funds from 2018 -- but so far no deal for the January 15th payroll.

 
Old 01-10-2019, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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You’re exactly correct! Hector Garza, VP of the National Border Patrol Council was on TV the other day talking about how much it would help the Border Patrol do their job if there was a wall! He’s been on the Border Patrol for 18 years. He said that people that have never seen the situation up close but that are against a wall simply don’t know what they’re talking about! Active Border Patrol agents are better qualified to offer an opinion than Schumer and Pelosi!

Around here they’re putting 7-8 foot tall fences and walls around schools to make them more secure! Funny that they work there and for other countries but some geniuses here don’t think they’re effective!
Good point.. every single school I see has put up chain link fences around the recess areas because of the largely fabricated worry that predators are going to abduct your kids... and yet the logic that perhaps a wall might be a good idea along the Mexican border is summarily rejected by many of these same people who put up fences around schools.

In reality, they should just make path to citizenship easier. Most mexicans are harder workers than their caucasian or african counterparts due to their cultural upbringing and the fact they lived in squalor so they have a different perspective than entitled people who've had section 8 housing and government welfare all their lives.
 
Old 01-10-2019, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Good point.. every single school I see has put up chain link fences around the recess areas because of the largely fabricated worry that predators are going to abduct your kids...

Nope.


Schools have fences to keep little kids from running into the streets chasing after a ball, playing tag, or whatever.



Cuts way down on kids being injured or killed in traffic.



 
Old 01-10-2019, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Federal Way, WA
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And illegal labor will continue to flow northward as long as "American" employers can manage to get them through.
This is a huge part of the issue. 2/3 of people in the US illegally came in legally on work visas and overstayed them. So only around 33% of illegal immigrants here actually crossed the border illegally. If we want to lower the number of people illegally here, seems we would make dealing with people overstaying visas a top priority, but that is rarely mentioned by either side.
 
Old 01-10-2019, 12:48 PM
 
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Good point.. every single school I see has put up chain link fences around the recess areas because of the largely fabricated worry that predators are going to abduct your kids... and yet the logic that perhaps a wall might be a good idea along the Mexican border is summarily rejected by many of these same people who put up fences around schools.

In reality, they should just make path to citizenship easier. Most mexicans are harder workers than their caucasian or african counterparts due to their cultural upbringing and the fact they lived in squalor so they have a different perspective than entitled people who've had section 8 housing and government welfare all their lives.
Why just Mexicans?
 
Old 01-10-2019, 12:51 PM
 
Location: USA
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It's weird to decry crimes by illegals, when in reality if every American was replaced with an illegal immigrant we'd have less crime.
 
Old 01-10-2019, 12:52 PM
 
Location: USA
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Around here they’re putting 7-8 foot tall fences and walls around schools to make them more secure! Funny that they work there and for other countries but some geniuses here don’t think they’re effective!

You think a 7-8 foot fall will stop drug traffickers with billions of dollars?
 
Old 01-10-2019, 01:17 PM
 
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Well you keep trying to take cheap shots. And you just keeps showing your a*s so it is kind of amusing.
What "cheap shots" are you claiming I am taking?

If anything, it's you who is taking "cheap shots" and making attacks. Oh the irony
 
Old 01-10-2019, 01:21 PM
 
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Yes! And this isn't limited to border states.

My step son lives on Long Island. His daughter needs special instruction relative to a minor learning disability. It became clear she wasn't getting it and wasn't making progress.

When they asked to meet with her teachers, they were told the school was overwhelmed with the need to teach English as a second language to children of illegal immigrants.

American children whose families have been here for generations and shed blood, sweat and tears to build and defend this country are being short changed for children who are American citizens only because their parents crossed the border illegally.

Additionally, there's a town down the road where property values were destroyed because of illegals hanging on street corners looking for employment by whomever is picking them up as day laborers.
Thank you for posting. What you say is the truth. I have a brother who lives on Long Island. He tells me similar things.

I live in an area where illegals destroyed the schools and the community where I was living.

And you are correct in saying that American children who are in need of extra help in school aren't not getting it.
 
Old 01-10-2019, 01:30 PM
 
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The economy of my state would come crashing down faster than a drug smuggler can breach Trump's wall if immigrant labor were cut off/expelled. So would that of all the border states and many interior ones as well. Illegals and now their descendants make up a huge part of the workforce here. We simply do not have enough people to meet the demand for labor in the fast growing sun belt. That is not to say we should have open borders or porous ones like now. It would be far better to have an orderly system that supplies employers with necessary labor, one where seasonal and demand workers could return to their homes and not have to sneak back in if they leave. But agreement on that is impossible so what we have is, unfortunately, the best we are going to come up with.
"Immigrant labor"? Don't be so disingenuous. You're really talking about illegal alien labor.

AZ enacted E-verify. When our daughter lived there, once E-verify was enacted, they easily found Americans and legal immigrants to take BOH restaurant jobs. In the PHX area, we would go to fast food restaurants and all the employees spoke fluent English.

If a company either uses illegal labor or caters to illegal aliens, then it is a diseased company that needs to die.

When GW Bush was president and ICE was allowed to do raids, Americans would line up at those plants and factories for a chance to apply for a job. In one notable case when Howard Industries in MS got raided, Americans lined up in great number to apply, with some traveling as much as 40 miles for a chance at a job.

No one ever said that ridding the country of illegals wouldn't be easy. The sleazy employers who deliberately hire them will suffer the most---as they deserve to have that happen to them. Then, in order to get Americans to take their jobs, they will have to pay more money, have safe working conditions and offer up benefits.
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