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So first you say that nothing has been proven, but then you insinuate that it's a given that he acted with Russia. You are just twisting statements to fit your own narritive.
If that's what you believe, fine, but you have no business telling someone else they're wrong because it doesn't fit with your opinions.
One thing that is explicitly clear is that the left was out to get Trump from the get-go, no doubt about it, and used everything they had to try and get what they wanted.
Actually every American should be working to get Trump out of office...He is destroying America's reputation with free nations world wide.
So first you say that nothing has been proven, but then you insinuate that it's a given that he acted with Russia. You are just twisting statements to fit your own narritive.
If that's what you believe, fine, but you have no business telling someone else they're wrong because it doesn't fit with your opinions.
One thing that is explicitly clear is that the left was out to get Trump from the get-go, no doubt about it, and used everything they had to try and get what they wanted.
You are projecting, it seems. It's clear that Russian interference in the election was more widespread than most Americans first believed, and this latest news certainly indicates that most of it was with Trump's complete approval and encouragement.
As far as anyone being "out to get Trump", usually presidential campaigns include one or more parties opposing one or more other parties, so yes, they do try to "get what they want": i.e., their candidate elected to office. As for the "by any means" provision you implied, that would certainly seem to apply more to Trump and his cronies - official and unofficial - quite a number of whom have been charged with illegal acts directed towards electing Trump during the 2016 campaign, since it's clear there was pro-Trump Russian interference, and more and more evidence that there was also collusion with Russia and Russian interests by Trump and a number of those same official Trump campaign members.
But hang on a few more weeks, and see for yourself what else emerges. It may change your current views entirely.
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I think that number is more like 25% to 30%....there is a big chunk in the 40% number that is waiting to see the outcome of this investigation. If Mueller lays out the case that Donald Trump and his team acted in conspiracy with Russian Military Intelligence and does so beyond any reasonable doubt in any US Court of Law, there is no way Trump will keep the entire 40% base.
I hope there's also no way Trump will keep the Presidency, if this is proved beyond a reasonable doubt. The next couple of months should be quite eye-opening for us all.
Behavior? You made that up An investigation in search of a crime.
Quite a few related proven crimes - and quite a number criminals, several of whom have chosen to confess - have already been uncovered by said investigation. If you are so certain that's it and everyone else with any connections to what's already known is as innocent as lambs, then why are you concerned?
Or if they are not as pure as the driven snow, don't you want that to be uncovered and the perps brought to justice and our country made safer once again?
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Behavior? You made that up An investigation in search of a crime.
And how does that differ from what the IRS does when they audit you? They take a close look to make sure there is no hanky panky with the numbers. Just like Mueller and the FBI are doing with Trump. If there is no hanky panky he has nothing to worry about.
There has been quite a bit of speculation about Trump's usual translator during his face-to-face encounters with Putin. It has been suggested that she should be requested to testify to the House about her memories of these encounters and what was said.
I am sure there must have also been private, unofficial but perhaps quite significant phone calls between Trump and Putin.
Is Russian one of the various languages Melania Trump claims to speak? Most educated people of her generation who grew up in the former Soviet Union and former Soviet Block nations can speak and/or read at least functional Russian. It's very odd that Melania claims to speak three Western European languages, along with two Eastern European languages - but omits the closely related Russian from her official language list.
How convenient, if Trump has a live-in "translator" available at times when the usual "official" translator is not readily on hand...hmmm.
I have not read or heard anything about this theory - but have to wonder if Melania doesn't "volunteer" from time to time. Or at least if Trump doesn't sometimes ask her to step in.
If this is the case- Melania may want soon to throw herself upon the mercy of the court, have more "kidney" surgery, cease her fashionable ways, and start to live a very quiet life under the witness protection program, far away from Russia.
Last edited by CraigCreek; 01-13-2019 at 12:58 AM..
They key phrase here is unsubstantiated claim
At this point isn't it obvious to all involved that Trump doesn't care what people say, do or think they have on him.
I will wait for Muller's final report and the WH response to it. Honestly, for me, at this point in his Presidency, compared to where we were when Obama or even Bush 43 were in office I am much happier with the direction the country is going in. It's kicking and screaming the entire way and that's good because it means meaningful change is happening and Trump is making it happen.
But just what is the meaning of this "meaningful change"? Rejecting our traditional allies, and Americans sharply divided against one another? A president in thrall to Vladimir Putin? A president who habitually lies to the American people? Destruction of clean air, clean water, and the very land? (just fly over WVA on a clear day, and look down at what used to be mountains) A president who is a sexual predator, and a serial adulterer? A president who lacks empathy, knowledge of our government and history, and who shows no inclination to remedy his ignorance? A president who is no more mature than a small, spoiled child who throws temper tantrums and lashes out when he fails to get his way?
It's not the country that is "kicking and screaming" right now. It's the ignorant, dishonest, greedy imposter in the Oval Office.
Because it is fact? The walls are closing in on him and you know it. It's not a lie like the rhetoric Individual 1 speaks every day.
It seems to make you uncomfortable. But it makes most of America uncomfortable that we have a treasonous president that will sell his soul to Russia and Saudi Arabia in exchange for votes and money.
"a top FBI agent in Boston, explained in 2014: “The FBI believes the true motives of the Russian partners, who are often funded by their government, is to gain access to classified, sensitive, and emerging technology from the companies.”
"All those who wish to argue that the Saudis donated millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation out of a magnanimous desire to aid its charitable causes, please raise your hand."
"...I will tell you this, Russia: If you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” the Republican nominee said at a news conference in Florida. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”..." - Donald Trump
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