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Nicolas Maduro was sworn in for his second term as president last Thursday. He had been elected with 68% of the vote, but the election was widely decried as being rigged. Hugo Chavez, who was much more popular than his protégé Maduro, got 63% in 2007, then a record margin in Venezuela. That election was certified by the OAS, and monitored by the Carter Center. This election was not. Fourteen countries including the US have said that they will not recognize the Maduro Presidency because of election irregularities. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-46821653
In short, once-socialist-democratic Venezuela appears to have devolved into a socialist dictatorship. Maduro has been widely unpopular due to the shattered economy. Venezuela was once the richest country in South America.
Hugo Chavez brought in 'democratic socialism' in 1998, and indeed did carry out everything he did via democracy. He lost few elections; when he did, he would throw a tantrum, but mostly would abide by the results.
I have to admit that I was excited when Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez came along. She is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America, a group that does believe in true socialism (collective ownership of the means of production). But I'm having second thoughts these days. Here is yet another example of a country adopting socialism, only to morph into dictatorship and tyranny.
Socialism only works with people willing to give their money over. And takes incentive away. The lesson is there in front of you but idiots like AOC or Sanders are blind as bats to history.
Well.. living in a Social Democracy with Social Democratic parties, I can say its a brilliant country!!
What ever Venezuala has morphed into, is NOT a Social Democracy.
Again, right wingers are catching on that Northern Europe are Social Democracies and constantly been the best countries EVER to live in, they try to connect those words, with a country gone towards total dictatorship.
A year or two ago, they called Western Europe for socialist countries.. Now they are atleast trying a bit harder and calling them by the correct name, Social Democracies. Whatever else they are doing afterwards is completely disingenuous.
Incorrect. My Danish mother will not ever go back to a country that decides what’s best for her. Denmark.
Socialism only works with people willing to give their money over. And takes incentive away. The lesson is there in front of you but idiots like AOC or Sanders are blind as bats to history.
They are not advocating Socialism... They want Social Democracies, like Northern Europe, Canada, New Zealand, Australia.
Private ownership of means of production and a strong safety net.
Venezuela will figure it out. And if they don’t, it’s nothing to us regardless.
I and my extended Venezuelan family wholeheartedly disagree. That, and you're just wrong.
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Immigration from Venezuela increased by 21 percent or almost 61,000 people between 2016 and 2017, the largest significant increase in immigrants from one country that year.
Incorrect. My Danish mother will not ever go back to a country that decides what’s best for her. Denmark.
And I know several Americans that would LOVE to move to Denmark, because its such a great place to live.
Beautiful, efficient, great people, lots and lots of rights... etc etc etc...
Denmark has very little oil. You're probably thinking of Norway.
But you just said ...
If Denmark is a "great capitalist nation," why would it be such a bad thing to adopt its model?
No, I was thinking of Denmark....below taken from Wikipedia:
"Denmark has considerably large deposits of oil and natural gas in the North Sea and ranks as number 32 in the world among net exporters of crude oil[146] and was producing 259,980 barrels of crude oil a day in 2009"
Norway is an even larger oil exporter.
I don't think Denmark is such a bad model to adopt....but it would mean we wouldn't be as wealthy which is a choice.
Nicolas Maduro was sworn in for his second term as president last Thursday. He had been elected with 68% of the vote, but the election was widely decried as being rigged. Hugo Chavez, who was much more popular than his protégé Maduro, got 63% in 2007, then a record margin in Venezuela. That election was certified by the OAS, and monitored by the Carter Center. This election was not. Fourteen countries including the US have said that they will not recognize the Maduro Presidency because of election irregularities. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-46821653
In short, once-socialist-democratic Venezuela appears to have devolved into a socialist dictatorship. Maduro has been widely unpopular due to the shattered economy. Venezuela was once the richest country in South America.
Hugo Chavez brought in 'democratic socialism' in 1998, and indeed did carry out everything he did via democracy. He lost few elections; when he did, he would throw a tantrum, but mostly would abide by the results.
I have to admit that I was excited when Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez came along. She is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America, a group that does believe in true socialism (collective ownership of the means of production). But I'm having second thoughts these days. Here is yet another example of a country adopting socialism, only to morph into dictatorship and tyranny.
No, I was thinking of Denmark....below taken from Wikipedia:
"Denmark has considerably large deposits of oil and natural gas in the North Sea and ranks as number 32 in the world among net exporters of crude oil[146] and was producing 259,980 barrels of crude oil a day in 2009"
Norway is an even larger oil exporter.
I don't think Denmark is such a bad model to adopt....but it would mean we wouldn't be as wealthy which is a choice.
I suppose that's more than I thought, but still, oil extraction is a small part of their economy:
Denmark has some sources of oil and natural gas in the North Sea with Esbjerg being the main city for the oil and gas industry. Production has decreased in recent years, though. Whereas in 2006 output (measured as gross value added or GVA) in mining and quarrying industries made up more than 4% of Denmarks's total GVA, in 2017 it amounted to 1.2%
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