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Old 01-15-2019, 11:44 AM
 
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And I know several Americans that would LOVE to move to Denmark, because its such a great place to live.
Beautiful, efficient, great people, lots and lots of rights... etc etc etc...

Such a nice place to live.. And I have!!
I have too. I don’t need government to yank my money to save for me a government mandated vacation. The government decides for you so how is that free?

 
Old 01-15-2019, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Venezuela will figure it out. And if they don’t, it’s nothing to us regardless.
Tell that to Pompeo

Pompeo calls Venezuela's Nicolas Maduro government 'illegitimate'

US calls for 'orderly transition' to a new government, days after Maduro began a disputed second term as president.

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has called Venezuela's government under President Nicolas Maduro "illegitimate" as Washington steps up its call for an "orderly transition" to a new government.

"We are very hopeful we can be a force for good to allow the region to come together to deliver that."




....sigh
 
Old 01-15-2019, 12:34 PM
 
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I have too. I don’t need government to yank my money to save for me a government mandated vacation. The government decides for you so how is that free?
I don´t either.. but 10-30% of the every countries inhabitants really need it. Then you have 10-20% of the population that really appreciates it. Then you incrementally go up where you come to the 10% that have no need for the government.. like you and me.

But I see that my country is better of because of it.. compared to other countries where the bottom 40% of the population really needs help, but have no safety net.
 
Old 01-15-2019, 12:38 PM
 
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Regulation is not dictatorship and tyranny. You realize that, right?


It isn't?
 
Old 01-15-2019, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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It isn't?
Are speed limits dictatorship and tyranny?
 
Old 01-15-2019, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Are speed limits dictatorship and tyranny?
Speed limits have nothing to do with stomping on rights.
 
Old 01-15-2019, 12:47 PM
 
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I don´t either.. but 10-30% of the every countries inhabitants really need it. Then you have 10-20% of the population that really appreciates it. Then you incrementally go up where you come to the 10% that have no need for the government.. like you and me.

But I see that my country is better of because of it.. compared to other countries where the bottom 40% of the population really needs help, but have no safety net.
Well, let's introduce into the equation those who "claim" not to need government while perhapos enjoying all those benefits that come from a "collective" of another sort such as union members.

Some of the people claiming complete independence are recipients of union or collective bargaining attained benefits including medical insurance plans. Some even go so far as to disparage taxpayer funded assistance while paying unions dues to achieve the same or better ends.

How many making this assertion, they're so "independently" funding their own welfare, are doing so while being a member of just another "collective' receiving a benefits package second to none through nothing more individualistic on their part than walking into an employment office and being lucky?
 
Old 01-15-2019, 12:52 PM
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And I know several Americans that would LOVE to move to Denmark, because its such a great place to live.
Beautiful, efficient, great people, lots and lots of rights... etc etc etc...

Such a nice place to live.. And I have!!

The grass is always greener. As someone born and raised in The Netherlands I can tell you that socialist-Democatic Europe has a few advantages, but I prefer the freedom and opportunity in the United States (that is, unless the Democrats try to take it away).
 
Old 01-15-2019, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Speed limits have nothing to do with stomping on rights.
Why not? They're regulations, which is what hawkeye2009 said are tyrannical.
 
Old 01-15-2019, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Nicolas Maduro was sworn in for his second term as president last Thursday. He had been elected with 68% of the vote, but the election was widely decried as being rigged. Hugo Chavez, who was much more popular than his protégé Maduro, got 63% in 2007, then a record margin in Venezuela. That election was certified by the OAS, and monitored by the Carter Center. This election was not. Fourteen countries including the US have said that they will not recognize the Maduro Presidency because of election irregularities.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-46821653

In short, once-socialist-democratic Venezuela appears to have devolved into a socialist dictatorship. Maduro has been widely unpopular due to the shattered economy. Venezuela was once the richest country in South America.

President Maduro recently blocked all access to Wikipedia after a post appeared that he did not like.
https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/i...icle-1.6831777

Hugo Chavez brought in 'democratic socialism' in 1998, and indeed did carry out everything he did via democracy. He lost few elections; when he did, he would throw a tantrum, but mostly would abide by the results.

I have to admit that I was excited when Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez came along. She is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America, a group that does believe in true socialism (collective ownership of the means of production). But I'm having second thoughts these days. Here is yet another example of a country adopting socialism, only to morph into dictatorship and tyranny.
Venezuela is Marxist, not Democratic Socialist.
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