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So do tell what is the point of allowing abortions of full term babies? Another pink poussey hat wearing issue? Because men are evil and women have no control over their bodies?
Who are the ones that don't know their baby is "unhealthy" until...when? 38-40 weeks? The day they go in to labor? And what does that REALLY mean? Don't want a dwarf? Don't want a kid with a missing limb? Hole in the heart?
It's nothing other than a liberal "feel good" measure directed at their lib voters, who would NEVER (supposedly) abort a full term baby. All about votes.
And that's nothing new. So no need for this bull****.
You have no words. You have political leaning/feelings... and all are for pro-abortion.
I'm good with abortion - have 'em. Please. Because if you are so stupid, in 2019 to not figure out how to use protection (or teach your kids how to)...have an abortion.
I'd guess you'd have to have the ability to understand why people are pro choice to understand why this is a useless worry.
Do you know where it states that the law is now past 24 weeks for any reason? You're username suggests you might.
This problem would go away if all these folks would just remember what my grandfather told me waaaay back when> "you can't knock 'em up with spit".....
Edit: read it again. you still look like you are taking the pro life stance.
what's wrong with commenting on a username? It does say informed to I assumed you had already taken the time to research this law. I'm really an apostate.
FACT: Abortions of healthy full term babies don't happen and aren't going to start happening because there is no healthcare provider that would do them.
And rarity is significant as it signals that late term abortions are not done without a compelling reason.
You should take the word of someone who has been on the front lines of this issue instead of the biased interpretation of people who have an anti-choice agenda.
Your Fact is irrelevant, they don't happen because it was illegal. Your suggestion that no abortion provider will do them is simply a guess on your part.
But lets say you are right, why do we need it to allowed under the law. You aren't suggesting it isnt allowed are you?
Your problem is that you think there is interpretation involved here. There isn't. There is law and fact.
Your Fact is irrelevant, they don't happen because it was illegal. Your suggestion that no abortion provider will do them is simply a guess on your part.
But lets say you are right, why do we need it to allowed under the law. You aren't suggesting it isnt allowed are you?
Your problem is that you think there is interpretation involved here. There isn't. There is law and fact.
Why do we need what allowed under the law? Late term abortion is certain circumstances?
FACT: Abortions of healthy full term babies don't happen and aren't going to start happening because there is no healthcare provider that would do them.
And rarity is significant as it signals that late term abortions are not done without a compelling reason.
You should take the word of someone who has been on the front lines of this issue instead of the biased interpretation of people who have an anti-choice agenda.
Post the BILL here with that very language in it. Post it!
And don't deny you approve of torture of children at the borders and prisoners and refugees. This crap you are spreading is nothing more than the WAR AGAINST WOMEN that has been waged by men since the beginning of time.
Again, its been posted many times and I have pointed out where I have posted it previously.
The facts are inarguable.
Your emotional "war against women" rhetoric is a sad indictment of your inability to discuss facts.
Section 2 of the bill creates a new Article 25-A of the Public Health
Law (PHL), which states that an abortion May be performed by a
licensed, certified, or authorized practitioner within 24 weeks from
the commencement of pregnancy, or there is an absence of fetal
viability, or at any time when necessary to protect a patient's life
or health.
I know it doesn't make a difference if an abortion is performed before 24 weeks to people who are pro life but it does make a difference to many pro choice people. I understand it to say the limit is still 24 weeks except in the usual circumstances. Where do you see that anyone can get an abortion after 24 weeks.
The "usual", or prior law covered the same limiting circumstances with the exception of the "or health" inclusion.
The new law allows for the killing of a child for "health" reasons of the mother through until birth. Inarguable.
It's there in black and white.
Doe v. Bolton gives the relevant guidance on what "health" means in this context. In that decision the U.S. Supreme Court held that “medical judgment may be exercised in the light of all factors — physical, emotional, psychological, familial, and the woman’s age — relevant to the wellbeing of the patient. All these factors may relate to health."
So yes, anyone can get an abortion after 24 weeks for "health" reasons. Further, the new law doesn't even require that a Dr is involved in this "health" assessment.
People say it will never happen. So why allow it under law if it isn't required?
The "usual", or prior law covered the same limiting circumstances with the exception of the "or health" inclusion.
The new law allows for the killing of a child for "health" reasons of the mother through until birth. Inarguable.
It's there in black and white.
Doe v. Bolton gives the relevant guidance on what "health" means in this context. In that decision the U.S. Supreme Court held that “medical judgment may be exercised in the light of all factors — physical, emotional, psychological, familial, and the woman’s age — relevant to the wellbeing of the patient. All these factors may relate to health."
So yes, anyone can get an abortion after 24 weeks for "health" reasons. Further, the new law doesn't even require that a Dr is involved in this "health" assessment.
People say it will never happen. So why allow it under law if it isn't required?
I checked and 20 states use the word health. I don't know how long it's been that way but probably awhile since Doe vs Bolton was in 1973. Do you happen to know if the 20 states that define health that way have a lot of late term abortions for mental health reasons?
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