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View Poll Results: Do you support this emergency order?
Yes 105 44.87%
No 129 55.13%
Voters: 234. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-24-2019, 05:52 PM
 
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McConnell has made sure that his objection to this shakedown has been leaked.

8 Senators have already voted for it. Give it another two weeks and another missed payday and his own Republican Senate will slap this nonsense down.

Trump doesn't care if he gets his wall or not. Has not made a single move about it in two years.

What he wants is to rile up his base and is using his wall to do it.

Who cares if the courts slap down his bogus "National Emergency" money grab? He can tell the racist rubes he tried.

Forward ever.
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Old 01-24-2019, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Yes, we need a wall, period.

We need enhanced border security, which a wall isn't. Why don't we use available 21st century technology, instead of 4th century technology? I'm pretty sure $7,000,000,000 is not going to be enough to fully fund a wall. And what kind of wall are we talking about? Where will the money be coming from?
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Old 01-24-2019, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I hope he does. Then the government will get reopened, the courts can stop him from this ridiculous attempt, and we can get back to the bizarre form of normal we've had for the past two years.
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Old 01-24-2019, 05:56 PM
 
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I wish you were right but Trump and his base get to decide what's true and what isn't and since they say this is an emergency, it is and it can't be disputed.
Sure it can be disputed. And it will be.
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Old 01-24-2019, 05:58 PM
 
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Sure it can be disputed. And it will be.
But meanwhile the government will be up and running and on to the next fiasco.
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Old 01-24-2019, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Sure it can be disputed. And it will be.
Not here it won't, LOL. Not successfully. Trump could claim that too many bluejays and not enough pink tulips are emergencies and his followers will fall all over themselves planting flowers and shooting birds.
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Old 01-24-2019, 06:09 PM
 
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Not here it won't, LOL. Not successfully. Trump could claim that too many bluejays and not enough pink tulips are emergencies and his followers will fall all over themselves planting flowers and shooting birds.
Oh for sure, not here, lol.
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Old 01-24-2019, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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The courts are just starting to hear eminent domain cases from the first phases of original wall construction during Bush II a decade ago.This is nothing but smoke and mirrors to satisfy the base and have a "bigly win" after getting his nose bloodied in his first go 'round with Crypt Keeper Pelosi.


More importantly it does absolutely f all for the government shutdown and the $6B moving to the dog and pony show on the border is better spent on our own people.
This cannot be repeated often enough.
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Old 01-24-2019, 06:16 PM
 
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According to CNN (keep the source in mind) the White House is drafting a proclamation to declare a national emergency along the southern border, which includes $7 billion in potential funds for a border wall.
White House preparing national emergency order - includes $7 billion for the wall

The White House is preparing a draft proclamation for President Donald Trump to declare a national emergency along the southern border and has identified more than $7 billion in potential funds for his signature border wall should he go that route, according to internal documents reviewed by CNN.

According to options being considered, the administration could pull: $681 million from Treasury forfeiture funds, $3.6 billion in military construction, $3 billion in Pentagon civil works funds, and $200 million in Department of Homeland Security funds, the official said.

{More at the link}
It should be obvious after the two defeated proposals in the Senate today that Congress has reached an impasse. We have seen the caravans coming up from Central America and the Democrats and the media all but rooting them on to come on in.

This must stop. Ideally, Congress would stop the obstruction and allow the border wall construction to begin. When Obama was president, the Republicans gave him his funding for Obamacare and his other pet issues when the Republicans had the votes to block it. Now the Democrats are not willing to compromise in the same way.

To use Obama's words, "We cannot wait". OK then. Obama set the precedent. Between the emergency at the Southern border and this partial government shutdown that does not have an end in sight, it is necessary for someone to end this. Now is the time.
Trump will steal money and there will be no wall...this is what he does. Wake the ef up!
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Old 01-24-2019, 06:21 PM
 
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Oh please. Most illegal mexican immigrants come here via plane or with a work visa, and stay after it expires. Less than 10% actually use the border.

It's not just Mexicans coming here illegally via our southern border and no most illegals don't come with visas or by planes because they wouldn't be illegals then, duh! There are still thousands entering our border illegally every month. Both the visas over stayers and the border jumpers are a problem but why would you ignore one problem for the other? You guys always deflect to the visa over stayers when we are discussing border jumpers and the wall, not them.


https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
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