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Old 03-13-2019, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Prior to the fateful voyage of 1492, Europe had been wracked with anti-Semitism. Jews were slaughtered, had their property confiscated, and were booted from one land to another.

There is some historical evidence that Christopher Columbus may have been of Jewish ancestry. His actual name, 'Colon,' was common among Italian Jews. His knowledge of navigation was Jewish-derived, and his interpreter, Luis de Torres, was born a Jew. An order expelling all Jews from Spain had been issued in March 1492. There has been suggestion from historians that Columbus may have been motivated to find a Jewish haven.

It turned out that America became exactly that. The Maryland Toleration Act of 1634 established the principle of freedom of religion, overturning centuries of European practice. Historian Paul Johnson quotes a Jewish baker writing back to his home country about his newfound "blessed land of freedom and prosperity." There was little-noted involvement of the Jewish community in the ratification of the Constitution.https://www.commentarymagazine.com/a...paid-the-jews/

A young Jewish poetess, Emma Lazarus, penned the inscription for the Statue of Liberty.

It was U.S. President Harry Truman who spearheaded the effort to create a Jewish state following WWII. Pro-Zionist White House aide David Niles said that he doubted it would have happened under FDR, who died in 1945 leaving Truman at the helm. President Richard M. Nixon came to the rescue in 1973, when Israel was threatened with annihilation. Nixon cut through red tape to arrange an emergency shipment of advanced weaponry.https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/rich...rael-1.6073645

USA will always have anti-Semites among us, but will never turn its back on the Jewish people.

 
Old 03-13-2019, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Right, you can condemn policies and actions and not be antisemitic. What Netanyahu is doing is no different than what some complain about also. I will most certainly condemn that.
It's one thing to go after Netanyahu. It's quite another to support BDS and other anti-Semitic dominated movements. Or to be bosom buddies with a Linda Sarsour or Farrakhan.

To wish for the destruction of Israel may not anti-Semitic in the strictest definition of the term, but given the history, it is anti-Semitic for all intents and purposes.
 
Old 03-13-2019, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Prior to the fateful voyage of 1492, Europe had been wracked with anti-Semitism. Jews were slaughtered, had their property confiscated, and were booted from one land to another.

There is some historical evidence that Christopher Columbus may have been of Jewish ancestry. His actual name, 'Colon,' was common among Italian Jews. His knowledge of navigation was Jewish-derived, and his interpreter, Luis de Torres, was born a Jew. An order expelling all Jews from Spain had been issued in March 1492. There has been suggestion from historians that Columbus may have been motivated to find a Jewish haven.

It turned out that America became exactly that. The Maryland Toleration Act of 1634 established the principle of freedom of religion, overturning centuries of European practice. Historian Paul Johnson quotes a Jewish baker writing back to his home country about his newfound "blessed land of freedom and prosperity." There was little-noted involvement of the Jewish community in the ratification of the Constitution.https://www.commentarymagazine.com/a...paid-the-jews/

A young Jewish poetess, Emma Lazarus, penned the inscription for the Statue of Liberty.

It was U.S. President Harry Truman who spearheaded the effort to create a Jewish state following WWII. Pro-Zionist White House aide David Niles said that he doubted it would have happened under FDR, who died in 1945 leaving Truman at the helm. President Richard M. Nixon came to the rescue in 1973, when Israel was threatened with annihilation. Nixon cut through red tape to arrange an emergency shipment of advanced weaponry.https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/rich...rael-1.6073645

USA will always have anti-Semites among us, but will never turn its back on the Jewish people.
Colon is also a Spanish name, like the late actress Miriam Colon (yes it was her real last name), who was Puerto Rican Catholic
 
Old 03-13-2019, 02:04 PM
 
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It's one thing to go after Netanyahu. It's quite another to support BDS and other anti-Semitic dominated movements. Or to be bosom buddies with a Linda Sarsour or Farrakhan.

To wish for the destruction of Israel may not anti-Semitic in the strictest definition of the term, but given the history, it is anti-Semitic for all intents and purposes.
The argument was that condemnation of Israel was driven by anti-semitism. My argument is that while there are people who are "anti" everything being against what we do for Israel and what they do does not mean one is anti-Semitic.

I then have noted that Netanyahu is the very thing he complains about. I do not care one bit for him and wish he would disappear. That doesn't mean I have anything at all against Jews in general.
 
Old 03-13-2019, 02:07 PM
 
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Prior to the fateful voyage of 1492, Europe had been wracked with anti-Semitism. Jews were slaughtered, had their property confiscated, and were booted from one land to another.

There is some historical evidence that Christopher Columbus may have been of Jewish ancestry. His actual name, 'Colon,' was common among Italian Jews. His knowledge of navigation was Jewish-derived, and his interpreter, Luis de Torres, was born a Jew. An order expelling all Jews from Spain had been issued in March 1492. There has been suggestion from historians that Columbus may have been motivated to find a Jewish haven.

It turned out that America became exactly that. The Maryland Toleration Act of 1634 established the principle of freedom of religion, overturning centuries of European practice. Historian Paul Johnson quotes a Jewish baker writing back to his home country about his newfound "blessed land of freedom and prosperity." There was little-noted involvement of the Jewish community in the ratification of the Constitution.https://www.commentarymagazine.com/a...paid-the-jews/

A young Jewish poetess, Emma Lazarus, penned the inscription for the Statue of Liberty.

It was U.S. President Harry Truman who spearheaded the effort to create a Jewish state following WWII. Pro-Zionist White House aide David Niles said that he doubted it would have happened under FDR, who died in 1945 leaving Truman at the helm. President Richard M. Nixon came to the rescue in 1973, when Israel was threatened with annihilation. Nixon cut through red tape to arrange an emergency shipment of advanced weaponry.https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/rich...rael-1.6073645

USA will always have anti-Semites among us, but will never turn its back on the Jewish people.
Any reasons why they were expelled??
 
Old 03-13-2019, 02:36 PM
 
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Any reasons why they were expelled??

Is there ever a rational reason to expel an entire population based on their religion?
 
Old 03-13-2019, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Any reasons why they were expelled??
anti-Semitism was rampant throughout Europe in that era. Google the 'Spanish Inquisition.'
 
Old 03-13-2019, 05:26 PM
 
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Another day and I didn't get anyone to try and explain whether Gal Gadot is antisemitic because of her condemnation of Netanyahu.

As a reminder.

https://etcanada.com/news/429420/gal...tate-comments/
No, it isn't ant-Semitic. Netanyahu's being criticized for his comment by prominent Jews in and out of Israel.


It's clear some are extremist in accusations of anti-Semitism while others wouldn't recognize anti-Semitism until they hear a person declare they hate Jews.
 
Old 03-13-2019, 05:38 PM
 
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Any reasons why they were expelled??
Any wonder why we Jews are constantly on guard when horribly disgusting people like this exist? MYbe sometimes we get it wrong, but our margin or error is preciously small with animals like this in the world.
 
Old 03-13-2019, 07:29 PM
 
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Any wonder why we Jews are constantly on guard when horribly disgusting people like this exist? MYbe sometimes we get it wrong, but our margin or error is preciously small with animals like this in the world.
Just answer the question.
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