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Old 02-26-2019, 10:25 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Why must their be a goal? The goal is to vote this criminal out in 2020. That's the goal.
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Old 02-26-2019, 10:27 AM
 
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Trump will not be impeached.
If he somehow is impeached, he will not be convicted/removed by the senate.

Not sure about that. If Mueller proves that Trump personally conspired with the Russian government to interfere in the election and his approval rating falls to 30 or lower, the Senate will vote to remove. It only takes 20 out of 53 Republicans to defect.
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Old 02-26-2019, 10:31 AM
 
Location: NC
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Again, I just want him out of office he should of never been president in the first place. Besides being an embarrassment to this country, he’s a fool who has no clue as to what he’s doing. Upsetting the left is all he’s doing and his supporters are good with that. Even if it means throwing this country into chaos.
The country is not in chaos...but the left and the left leaning media organizations are.
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Old 02-26-2019, 10:32 AM
 
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Not sure about that. If Mueller proves that Trump personally conspired with the Russian government to interfere in the election and his approval rating falls to 30 or lower, the Senate will vote to remove. It only takes 20 out of 53 Republicans to defect.
I wish I shared your confidence that there would be 20 Republicans who would put country over party. Unfortunately, I don't.
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Old 02-26-2019, 10:35 AM
 
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I feel like the investigation will be inadequate no matter how long it goes on unless it results in Trump being impeached.

What should be happening is the strengthening of the Democratic Party, but they’ve been in defense mode for two years. Hillary kind of kick started this mode with her book that blamed
Everything and everyone but herself when she lost in 2016.

And really besides trying to throw out the electoral college, just take the path of least resistance and connect with middle America battleground states. For the life of me, they degrade Republicans and they are all racist and/or stupid but Democrat seem to whining and dwelling on things that will do very little in 2020. I don’t see wise actions from them. Now we have AOC and 94 trillion dollar plan when in reality there is little fault you can take with most economic issues.

They need to be preparing a candidate for 2020. Right now the party is not in “bandwagon” mode
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Old 02-26-2019, 10:36 AM
 
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I strongly dislike Trump, but my personal opinion about him isn't my main beef.

The fact that Trump is a threat to our national security is my main concern. He openly, and publicly, said that he believes Vladimir Putin over the 13 intelligence agencies.

If Barack Obama had said that, every single Trump supporter on here would be seething and screaming for his impeachment.
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Old 02-26-2019, 10:39 AM
 
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Just because he defeated your chosen one in a completely legal, legitimate, and fair manner doesn't means he "should have never been there" or is illegitimate. If your candidate hadn't been so arrogant believing there was no way she could lose and hadn't run such a horrible campaign by blowing off key Midwestern swing states and failing to make even one campaign stop in a couple of them not to mention sh### all over many of those swing voters calling then deplorables she may very well have won.

There's a lesson to be learned for you and your fellow Democrats after the 2016 election defeat. The question is whether or not the Democratic party and Democratic voters are humble enough to take responsibility for the 2016 defeat and reflect on THEIR failures to make sure it doesn't happen in 2020. Judging from so many liberal posters on this board, in the general public, and all your liberal friends who in the mainstream media across the country, you guys haven't learned a thing. What should have been a soul searching session to see where you guys went wrong has instead been one continuous over two year screaming hissy fit that would make a spoiled three year old child who had his/her favorite toy ripped away on Christmas morning jealous.


Your party did well in the 2018 midterms particularly in the House but somehow managed to defy historical midterm election trends by actually losing a couple of seats in the Senate. A difficult feat historically in a midterm election of a first term President...especially one as controversial as this one who is absolutely despised by half the country. That doesn't bode too well for the Democrats in 2020 given that an incumbent President (even a controversial one like Trump) is much tougher to defeat in a presidential election than it is to take one house of Congress his party controls in a midterm election. If the economy remains anything like it currently is thru the next election it's going to take more than "RESISTANCE!!!!" or a partisan impeachment vote for the Democratic challenger to defeat Trump in 2020.

Btw, it would also help the Democratic party if they manage to nominate someone...anyone who isn't a "Democratic Socialist"....i.e..a socialist. The crazy, math illiterate, economy destroying, pie in the sky policies that political philosophy endorses would be a complete trainwreck disaster for the country the minute that platform was implemented. I pray every day this country doesn't have to learn that the hard way by becoming the latest in a growing list of countries destroyed by socialist policies.
This is well said!!!
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Old 02-26-2019, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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I strongly dislike Trump, but my personal opinion about him isn't my main beef.

The fact that Trump is a threat to our national security is my main concern. He openly, and publicly, said that he believes Vladimir Putin over the 13 intelligence agencies.

If Barack Obama had said that, every single Trump supporter on here would be seething and screaming for his impeachment.
That's true... and you could say the same about any number of things Trump has said and done.

It's all about tribal identity. As long as his supporters see Trump as 'their guy', he can literally do no wrong.
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Old 02-26-2019, 10:44 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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Just because he defeated your chosen one in a completely legal, legitimate, and fair manner doesn't means he "should have never been there" or is illegitimate. If your candidate hadn't been so arrogant believing there was no way she could lose and hadn't run such a horrible campaign by blowing off key Midwestern swing states and failing to make even one campaign stop in a couple of them not to mention sh### all over many of those swing voters calling then deplorables she may very well have won.

There's a lesson to be learned for you and your fellow Democrats after the 2016 election defeat. The question is whether or not the Democratic party and Democratic voters are humble enough to take responsibility for the 2016 defeat and reflect on THEIR failures to make sure it doesn't happen in 2020. Judging from so many liberal posters on this board, in the general public, and all your liberal friends who in the mainstream media across the country, you guys haven't learned a thing. What should have been a soul searching session to see where you guys went wrong has instead been one continuous over two year screaming hissy fit that would make a spoiled three year old child who had his/her favorite toy ripped away on Christmas morning jealous.


Your party did well in the 2018 midterms particularly in the House but somehow managed to defy historical midterm election trends by actually losing a couple of seats in the Senate. A difficult feat historically in a midterm election of a first term President...especially one as controversial as this one who is absolutely despised by half the country. That doesn't bode too well for the Democrats in 2020 given that an incumbent President (even a controversial one like Trump) is much tougher to defeat in a presidential election than it is to take one house of Congress his party controls in a midterm election. If the economy remains anything like it currently is thru the next election it's going to take more than "RESISTANCE!!!!" or a partisan impeachment vote for the Democratic challenger to defeat Trump in 2020.

Btw, it would also help the Democratic party if they manage to nominate someone...anyone who isn't a "Democratic Socialist"....i.e..a socialist. The crazy, math illiterate, economy destroying, pie in the sky policies that political philosophy endorses would be a complete trainwreck disaster for the country the minute that platform was implemented. I pray every day this country doesn't have to learn that the hard way by becoming the latest in a growing list of countries destroyed by socialist policies.
This belongs on every page of this thread.
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Old 02-26-2019, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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any actions that don't include hurting the Dotard's feelings and making him cry in public will fall short of the end game
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