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Old 03-21-2019, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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To be sure, demographics have an important effect on murder rates.

But all that goes to show is, it is demographics that are the most important determinant of murder rates, not prevailing political ideology ("Democrat killing fields" per your description). Seattle is a liberal democratic city. And its murder rate is low.
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Old 03-21-2019, 08:57 AM
 
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To be sure, demographics have an important effect on murder rates.

But all that goes to show is, it is demographics that are the most important determinant of murder rates, not prevailing political ideology ("Democrat killing fields" per your description). Seattle is a liberal democratic city. And its murder rate is low.
Not always. Alaska doesn't have an especially large Black population. Somehow, it has one of the highest murder rates in the USA, and has one of the highest violent crime rates over all.
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Old 03-21-2019, 09:00 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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To be sure, demographics have an important effect on murder rates.

But all that goes to show is, it is demographics that are the most important determinant of murder rates, not prevailing political ideology ("Democrat killing fields" per your description). Seattle is a liberal democratic city. And its murder rate is low.



It may not be the guns, if you research it without being PC.
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Old 03-21-2019, 09:01 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Not always. Alaska doesn't have an especially large Black population. Somehow, it has one of the highest murder rates in the USA, and has one of the highest violent crime rates over all.



Poverty.....
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Old 03-21-2019, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Not always. Alaska doesn't have an especially large Black population. Somehow, it has one of the highest murder rates in the USA, and has one of the highest violent crime rates over all.
Yes, I'm aware it's not always true, there are many factors. But race is definitely one of the most important factors.
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Old 03-21-2019, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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It may not be the guns, if you research it without being PC.
???

What may not be guns?

You need to learn to write in more complete sentences.
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Old 03-21-2019, 09:13 AM
 
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Poverty.....
Poverty, drugs, broken homes, being raised in an environment where violence is considered normal. Alaska ranks #1 in America for violent crime, and #3 in America for property crime.

Oklahoma has its own problems. There is a bit of cowboy in me, so I feel bad talking about OK in a bad light. It's #9 in property crime and #14 in violent crime. Oklahoma has one of the highest burglary rates in America, ranking #3. Odd considering both states are oil states. Kansas, to the north of Oklahoma, is doing better in terms of crime.
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Old 03-21-2019, 09:21 AM
 
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Yes, I'm aware it's not always true, there are many factors. But race is definitely one of the most important factors.
I would look at what would cause someone to be violent. What is it about Alaska, red state, not that many Blacks, where alot of violent crime takes place? BTW, Alaska ranks #1 in the USA for violent crime. Alaska tops the list for rape and assault, and ranks 11th out of 50 in murder. New Mexico is 2nd in the nation for violent crime. Ranks high for rape and murder.

I like to look at each place piece by piece. Consider WA state. The most murderous county in WA is Yakima County. It's in farm country far from the larger Seattle area.
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Old 03-21-2019, 09:24 AM
 
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I think it is an interesting tactic to search out problem areas that folks think are primarily Democrat.

Wouldn't you think a more effective approach would be to highlight what these folks think is the ideal urban areas to live in?

If you love where you live -- love it. If you don't move.

But please -- don't show your ignorance by trying to trash somewhere you don't live.
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Old 03-21-2019, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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I would look at what would cause someone to be violent. What is it about Alaska, red state, not that many Blacks, where alot of violent crime takes place? BTW, Alaska ranks #1 in the USA for violent crime. Alaska tops the list for rape and assault, and ranks 11th out of 50 in murder. New Mexico is 2nd in the nation for violent crime. Ranks high for rape and murder.

I like to look at each place piece by piece. Consider WA state. The most murderous county in WA is Yakima County. It's in farm country far from the larger Seattle area.
I could be wrong, but in Alaska I suspect a large amount of the crime there is tribal. Native Americans have serious alcohol and drug problems, and when people get drunk or on drugs at such high rates, a lot of violent crime is going to occur.

Yakima County has a high Hispanic population as well as a large Native American population. Ditto New Mexico.
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