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Old 03-25-2019, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Bison kept the grass fields healthy and offered Natives food and building material. The savage Americans slaughtered them for market demand and the evil American consumer took it all for their high living standards.

Damn them all.
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Old 03-25-2019, 08:41 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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Bison tastes great!
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Old 03-25-2019, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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The usual guilt trip from our OP; may we have some cheese to go with that whine?
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Old 03-25-2019, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Bison tastes great!
I'm sure they do. I love eating meat, but it should be done properly, not through mass murder, having the carcass processed through a machine for the mindless American Consumer to eat.

You've never tasted really bison, just processed trash. People who live on the land have to respect the Bison for if they kill them off all suffer, but now all you have to do is wait for a corporation to ship you your meal and eat.

All of you feed and feed and never see what you are doing.
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Old 03-25-2019, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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The usual guilt trip from our OP; may we have some cheese to go with that whine?
Cheese is great, wine is great, and meat is great.

The growers and hunters should be proud of the food they produce, but it should be done with respect to the land, not because some corporation organized mass slaughter on land they don't live to process it to the mindless consumer.

The Bison kept the grasslands healthy and all who lived their benefited from them and understood their value. Someone who doesn't live their and just pays to be a corporate consumer should have no control over the land.
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Old 03-25-2019, 08:59 AM
 
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The usual guilt trip from our OP; may we have some cheese to go with that whine?

That cheese would go great on a bison burger. I have one at the Canfield Fair every year!
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Old 03-25-2019, 09:02 AM
 
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You've never tasted really bison, just processed trash. People who live on the land have to respect the Bison for if they kill them off all suffer, but now all you have to do is wait for a corporation to ship you your meal and eat.

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You are buying the marketed utopian history. It wasn't all good. Ever. Anywhere.

Bison impact the land, as do deer, antelope, rabbits, and frogs. Native Americans aren't magic and they had to manage the land, with sometimes hard decisions, just as they and their neighbors do now.

There are too many people in ratio to land for everyone to raise their own food. To be completely self supporting. In addition, farming, ranching, or being a hunter/gatherer is very time consuming. Life gets very basic.
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Old 03-25-2019, 09:05 AM
 
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It falls under history, not politics, although the intentional targeting of civilians and civilian infrastructure goes on till this day under the guise of war on terror. The goal is the same: to separate the native population from the desired resources, such as oil and natural gas, so the latter can be extracted without paying for their rights.

The Buffalo Killers
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Old 03-25-2019, 09:06 AM
 
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Because nobody/ everybody owned them. Private ownership combined with prices and markets conserve scarce resources the best. Do you suppose cattle or chickens will go extinct anytime soon? How will it work in your communist utopia?
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Old 03-25-2019, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Cheese is great, wine is great, and meat is great.

The growers and hunters should be proud of the food they produce, but it should be done with respect to the land, not because some corporation organized mass slaughter on land they don't live to process it to the mindless consumer.

The Bison kept the grasslands healthy and all who lived their benefited from them and understood their value. Someone who doesn't live their and just pays to be a corporate consumer should have no control over the land.
But the OP is caught up too much by his/her simplistic ideals, and too prejudiced by a basic distrust of free and open enterprise to realize this. Mass production and distribution are a by-product of the sophistication and specialization of the present day's open markets. And there is no way to put the genie back into the bottle -- save by centralization of authority, lower living standards, and the return to warfare, massed troops, and the other barbarisms to which it would surely give rise.

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You are buying the marketed utopian history. It wasn't all good. Ever. Anywhere.

Bison impact the land, as do deer, antelope, rabbits, and frogs. Native Americans aren't magic and they had to manage the land, with sometimes hard decisions, just as they and their neighbors do now.

There are too many people in ratio to land for everyone to raise their own food. To be completely self supporting. In addition, farming, ranching, or being a hunter/gatherer is very time consuming. Life gets very basic.

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