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Old 04-01-2019, 10:05 PM
 
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No one will get caught unless they catch measles or are reported as a contact to someone with measles and are found to have violated the ban.
Neighbors reporting neighbors. Just like the old Soviet Union, or Red China with their social credit score. Is this a great country, or what?

 
Old 04-02-2019, 12:56 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Neighbors reporting neighbors. Just like the old Soviet Union, or Red China with their social credit score. Is this a great country, or what?
Contact tracing is basic epidemiology in the control of a measles outbreak, but don't let that get in the way of a bit of paranoia. Contacts can be vaccinated if that has not already been done or offered immune globulin to reduce the risk of infection. Close contacts will need to be quarantined. The goal is to stop people from getting sick and stop the outbreak from spreading.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/su...7-measles.html
 
Old 04-02-2019, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Panama City, FL
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Or how about we do what the Nazi’s did and identify the unvaccinated with yellow stars? Is that the kind of society we want to emulate?
Please do yourself a favor and enroll in a "critical thinking" class. We have had to quarantine people due to disease many times in our national history. Or are you seriously suggesting we NOT try to contain deadly communicable diseases? Why have so many people become so uneducated?
Oh, yeah, I guess it is because one of the major political parties has slashed and burned funding for education for the last 40+ years so they could privatize school and make it into a cash-cow business.
 
Old 04-02-2019, 06:54 AM
 
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Please do yourself a favor and enroll in a "critical thinking" class. We have had to quarantine people due to disease many times in our national history. Or are you seriously suggesting we NOT try to contain deadly communicable diseases? Why have so many people become so uneducated?
Oh, yeah, I guess it is because one of the major political parties has slashed and burned funding for education for the last 40+ years so they could privatize school and make it into a cash-cow business.

Please do share and educate me by showing another example in our history where we’ve quarantined HEALTHY people. Not sick people but healthy people. That’s what this quarantine is all about. It’s unprecedented.

Good luck finding such an example.
 
Old 04-02-2019, 06:57 AM
 
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Obukhanych apparently learned nothing about immunology while earning her PhD. She cannot even define the word.

Her denial that herd immunity exists is rather pitiful. It's not a concept that is difficult to understand.

Here it is in less than 10 seconds:

https://imgur.com/gallery/8M7q8#J7LANQ4
She knows what she’s talking about. It’s weird that you’d be so critical of her without even hearing what she says in the video I shared.
 
Old 04-02-2019, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Please do share and educate me by showing another example in our history where we’ve quarantined HEALTHY people. Not sick people but healthy people. That’s what this quarantine is all about. It’s unprecedented.

Good luck finding such an example.
That was easy! Not one but two right off the bat.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...rantined-nurse
https://www.popsci.com/measles-publi...alth-emergency
 
Old 04-02-2019, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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She knows what she’s talking about. It’s weird that you’d be so critical of her without even hearing what she says in the video I shared.
Suzy has a graduate education in immumology;. she can smell a rat. Please summarize this nearly 2 hour video.
 
Old 04-02-2019, 08:27 AM
 
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Your second link doesn’t work.

The first instance is a little different as the nurse was working directly with Ebola patients. Ebola and measles are quite different, don’t you think? And this nurse was directly exposed. She also filed a lawsuit because of it. The current situation bans all unvaccinated minors from being in public whether they have come into contact with measles or not.
 
Old 04-02-2019, 08:28 AM
 
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Suzy has a graduate education in immumology;. she can smell a rat. Please summarize this nearly 2 hour video.

How would anyone confirm that? Her education does not rise to the level of the person she’s attacking, I’m sure. Feel free to watch the video and educate yourself. It’s about herd immunity, measles outbreaks, measles in general.
 
Old 04-02-2019, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Texas
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"Just to be clear, this is not something we're looking to do. The emergency declaration, by law, comes with that assigned. It's the lowest crime there is." He admitted that police officers will not be walking around asking parents for proof of vaccination for their children. He also said this is just to draw attention to make people understand the seriousness of the situation."

In other words it has no teeth and was a waste of time from the getgo.
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