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Old 03-29-2019, 03:58 PM
 
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Present all mankind with the same opportunity, you will get different results.

Individual humans produce individual results.
So you would conclude that those who are in US states with higher GDP are superior to those in states with lower GDP?

Different results, right? Same Mankind? Why?

 
Old 03-29-2019, 04:03 PM
 
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This thread is a great example of why history tends to repeat itself.
 
Old 03-29-2019, 04:06 PM
 
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So you would conclude that those who are in US states with higher GDP are superior to those in states with lower GDP?

Different results, right? Same Mankind? Why?
Where did I say that? No matter how much opportunity some people are given, they will continue to be poor, broke, uninsured, jobless.
 
Old 03-29-2019, 04:51 PM
 
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WW2 killed around 25 million Russians and Stalin killed many more millions in his purges, so it's not surprising there was enough food to go around.

Pure speculations, that were never proven to be true.

If they were true ( on top of all the losses of the Civil war and WWII,) Russia would have collapsed demographically long time ago.
 
Old 03-29-2019, 04:56 PM
 
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I have Family in Omsk Oblast....Communism never worked for them..............

For every family that "communism didn't work for," there were three other families, for which communism worked.
Same with capitalism; for every family that's happy to live under capitalism, there are three other out there, for whom capitalism doesn't work.
It all depends.
 
Old 03-29-2019, 05:09 PM
 
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This thread is a great example of why history tends to repeat itself.

I understand that you probably would like more of a "clear cut," more of the "black and white" definition, as in "communism bad, capitalism good," for the debate to be closed once and for all, but it's obviously not a case.

So yes, most likely the history will repeat itself.
 
Old 03-29-2019, 06:12 PM
 
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For every family that "communism didn't work for," there were three other families, for which communism worked.
Same with capitalism; for every family that's happy to live under capitalism, there are three other out there, for whom capitalism doesn't work.
It all depends.
I have been to their town... They still crap outside. and grow food to survive the winter ...the whole town and every town around Omsk. It doesn't work for millions.......
 
Old 03-29-2019, 06:19 PM
 
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I have been to their town... They still crap outside. and grow food to survive the winter ...the whole town and every town around Omsk. It doesn't work for millions.......

Guess what, under capitalism in Russia, not only many in the backwater locations still have to take crap outside and to grow food to survive, but now on top of that they don't have any medical care available around, their retirement age is going up without any employment perspectives, and what's even worse - their pensions very soon are not going to be guaranteed by the government any longer. Unlike back in Soviet times.
 
Old 03-29-2019, 06:21 PM
 
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OK, so my guess was correct.

You lived in "Russia proper" Moscow region.
What I've noticed during my extensive travels across the USSR, was that central parts of Russia were supplied the worst. I assume the authorities were thinking that these people could always make it to Moscow to stock up on food.

Otherwise I don't find any reasonable explanation for this phenomenon.
No, I lived in one of the slavic republics, not RSFSR. Did you hear about the "sausage trains"? It was long before the perestroika.
 
Old 03-29-2019, 06:23 PM
 
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I understand that you probably would like more of a "clear cut," more of the "black and white" definition, as in "communism bad, capitalism good," for the debate to be closed once and for all, but it's obviously not a case.

So yes, most likely the history will repeat itself.
Next time we'll do it the right way eh comrade?
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