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View Poll Results: should we focus on restricting and regulating ammunitions?
Yes. 19 15.70%
Yes, but only restrict the most dangerous bullets, such as the Black Talon,'hollow-points,' and cop-killer bullets. 2 1.65%
No, no new restrictions. 94 77.69%
other (please explain below). 6 4.96%
Voters: 121. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-31-2019, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Banning ammunition? Lmao, People are so stupid lol

Btw: this isn’t something new stupid gun grabbers just came up with; they purposed this many years ago that went nowhere. They also purposed putting in a tax on bullets.....making them a trillion dollar per bullet, lmao.

Idiots!
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Old 03-31-2019, 01:50 PM
 
Location: New York
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As much as I despise DWS, she is right on this one. Self-contained ammo is not covered under 2A. Tightly restrict ammuntion sales and ban the sale of components and individual manufacturing of same without a license, and you would eliminate the majority of the problem within a few years.
All this is saying you can keep your guns but you won't able to buy ammo, rendering them useless. More rights being trampled on.

If we restrict how much gas a person can buy we can stop auto deaths too. Make it illegal to own more than one car. Where does it end?


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Banning ammunition? Lmao, People are so stupid lol
Being stupid has never stopped them from believing they can dictate how everyone else lives. Stupid is as stupid does.
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Old 03-31-2019, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Great Britain
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ALL gun laws are unconstitutional and should be erased from the books. Want to live in an Authoritarian state then move to Europe or Asia where they restrict more than just your right to a gun.
Most Europeans are fine with gun used as part of someones employment or for sport or for hunting.

There was never really any massive ownership of guns for self defence, and in terms of sef defence most countries allow you to use reasonable force.

Guns are usually not part of the political debate in most countries, and most countries restricted guns not because of crime but in reaction to gun massacres.

However in terms of the UK most massacres have been the result of improvised explosive devices, bombs and even arson rather than guns.

Whilst a 1980 arson attack against a night club on Denmark Street in London by patron who was angry at being barred from the club for arguing with a bartender killed 37, indeed the Denmark Place fire was described as the deadliest mass murder in modern British history.

In May 1981, John Thompson was convicted of murder one of the victims and was sentenced to like in prison, he died of lung cancer on 16 August 2008, the 28th anniversary of the fire. After becoming involved in an argument with a barman at the club, Thompson went to a local petrol (gas) station and filled a container full of petro (gasoline) before returning to the club and starting the fire.


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Old 03-31-2019, 01:51 PM
 
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Even if constitutional, I doubt it would work. Ammo would be easy to get on the black market.

Another thought I had, since the Constitution assures the right to keep and bear arms, but not the right to make or sell arms: we could prohibit the manufacture and sale of guns (but would still have the issue of creating a black market).
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Old 03-31-2019, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Self-contained ammo is not covered under 2A.
The 2A neither grants nor protects rights. The 2A is irrelevant as far as property rights.

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Tightly restrict ammuntion sales and ban the sale of components and individual manufacturing of same without a license, and you would eliminate the majority of the problem within a few years.
Does that go for cops and the government as well?

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Why Are Federal Bureaucrats Buying Guns And Ammo? $158 Million Spent By Non-Military Agencies

Homeland Security Awards Federal Ammunition $75 Million Contract

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Old 03-31-2019, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Heart of the desert lands
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Travis-

Perhaps you should view your core beliefs, which always involves telling other people how to live and restricting their liberties. That is what we call a fascist. The problem is that the left has convinced themselves that they are "enlightened" an thus able to dictate the lives of others better than the individuals themselves.

Totalitarians always masquerade under less offensive titles, such as "liberal" or "progressive". That way, when they are packing fellow citizens off to death camps, they can feel better about themselves.
Truth. The authoritarian, dictorial left shows their true colors consistently when it comes to the 2nd amendment.

Scratch a progressive, reveal a tyrant.

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Old 03-31-2019, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Truth. The autoritarian, dictorial left shows their true colors consistently when it comes to the 2nd amendment.

Scratch a progressive, reveal a tyrant.
Absolutely. It's Donald Trump in a nutshell.
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Old 03-31-2019, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Heart of the desert lands
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As much as I despise DWS, she is right on this one. Self-contained ammo is not covered under 2A. Tightly restrict ammuntion sales and ban the sale of components and individual manufacturing of same without a license, and you would eliminate the majority of the problem within a few years.
It's like allowing cars, but banning fuel. It would make them useless indeed.


It would fail if brought to the SC, so I highly encourage the left to try this tactic, thus enshrining ammunition into the law as a right.
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Old 03-31-2019, 01:59 PM
 
Location: PSL
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There are over 300 million guns in the US. Guns last a long time. if we banned gun sales tomorrow, it would be literally centuries before they were eliminated.

Bullets, on the other hand, are used only once. Without bullets, he gun becomes a useless hunk of steel. Rep Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (D,FL) has taken the lead on this. As she says:

Read the Second Amendment all you wish, it's not in their. Sorry, NRA. I think that is fairly brilliant by DWS.

A friend of mine used to say, the gun is really just a dispenser. You wouldn't expect to control cigarettes by banning high-tech, electronic, push-button cigarette machines. Going back to the old-fashioned spring-controlled mechanical machines wouldn't help. The problem lies in the actual cigarette. Same with guns--the problem lies in the BULLET.

DWS wants to apply the same background checks for guns, to ammunitions. Even the NRA supported background checks; how could they now possibly object to the same for bullets?

This would also allow restrictions on certain, extra-deadly types of bullets. New Jersey actually passed a law banning rapid-fire ammunition that was struck down by an ignorant Trump-appointed judge.

What do you think?
I think you need to start focusing on the individuals compelled by motive incentive intent rather than implements. And China would be a better fit for you.
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Old 03-31-2019, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Heart of the desert lands
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Absolutely. It's Donald Trump in a nutshell.
Trump isnt left (completely), he is just ignorant on many things.
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