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There is no excuse for ignorance. When you spend all your time with people who look ike you, think like you, worship like you, are in the same general economic class as you, that breeds ignorance. Funny thing about diversity. Humans are more alike to one another than they are different. It's just that the outward appearances stops some folks in their tracks. Ignorance.
I would agree that ignorance can result if you hang out with a certain group of people all of the time, it can also bring about a dislike towards that which you don't understand.
I was raised in a moderately racists household growing up. My family tree is full of what most people would call rednecks.
My father, being one of those rednecks used to throw around the N word in all kinds of bad ways. Looking back, I'd say a part of it was the times, a part of it was ignorance, and a part of it could have been lack of diversity.
I'd say now, in his 70's, his views of other races has changed drastically. As with most of my family.
After I left home, I worked at a predominately gay dance club for four years, to go from racist redneck home to gay free love at night was quite a culture shock. I learned very quickly that people are people no matter how they dress, feel, act, etc.
I think that people will always gravitate to who they look most like, and who they feel comfortable with. Whites tend to hang with whites and blacks blacks. But, I don't think that in today's world, that most folks I know have the same levels of ignorance that we had 50 years ago.
Funny story, my grandparents lived in a very tiny town called Lena, SC. Their family had lived there since the 1770's. Dirt Farmers. God fearing pew jumping southern Baptists. That side of the family had even owned slaves back in the day.
One day back in the 1970's my grandmother was driving into town to do some shopping, a black man was riding his bike down the road, lost his balance and the two of them hit. Her car hit him so hard it broke his leg. So, being Christian (as she put it) she wanted to make sure he got to the hospital (15 miles away), so she gave him a ride to the doctors. Being an ignorant southerner though, she made him ride on the hood of her car the whole way there.
Later in life, she used to laugh at her follies and couldn't believe how incredibly stupid that was.
She and that man were lifelong friends after the accident by the way. They always wrote each other, sent X-Mas cards and whatnot, and she would always stop by his house to say hi and to bring his family fresh picked vegetables and stuff.
There is no excuse for ignorance. When you spend all your time with people who look ike you, think like you, worship like you, are in the same general economic class as you, that breeds ignorance. Funny thing about diversity. Humans are more alike to one another than they are different. It's just that the outward appearances stops some folks in their tracks. Ignorance.
Bingo! I spent 35 years in a steel mill of 3 thousand employees (then, not now) and at least 95% of them were white. Normal conversations could be had with far less than 20% of them. I took a job as a crane operator just to get away from them.
Bingo! I spent 35 years in a steel mill of 3 thousand employees (then, not now) and at least 95% of them were white. Normal conversations could be had with far less than 20% of them. I took a job as a crane operator just to get away from them.
Is that because of their race though, or could it be because they didn't have very good social skills and couldn't act appropriately around other people, which is why they were doing a very hard physical job but one that didn't require a lot of people skills?
There is no excuse for ignorance. When you spend all your time with people who look ike you, think like you, worship like you, are in the same general economic class as you, that breeds ignorance. Funny thing about diversity. Humans are more alike to one another than they are different. It's just that the outward appearances stops some folks in their tracks. Ignorance.
How those black hoodrats can enrich my culture of an educated Ashkenazi jew?
I often hear liberals tout "diversity" as being a wonderful goal that is obviously advantageous to everyone. The term "diversity" has been highjacked from genetics, in which genetic diversity is favorable for adaptation, and applied to social interractions with the presumption that it provides the obvious benefit seen in evolution.
However, the least diverse nations tend to be the most productive, wealthy, and crime free, while those nations with extensive ethnic diversity suffer. Diversity brings about lack of cultural cohesion, confusion over multiple different languages, and strife among the different ethnic groups. Witness the Bosnian War and the multiple wars in Africa- all fought over "diverse" groups failing to get along. Japan is an excellent example of complete lack of diversity, yet they thrive.
My alma mater was in a town that was essentially 100% white (sans the college students). A literal communist city council woman and subsequent mayor sought to make the city more "diverse" and actively recruited citizens from Chicago to come to the town. The town is much more "diverse" today with a much larger ethnic population. However, crime has gone up 10X, there is a part of the town identified and a "no go" area, city wide test scores have declined in schools, and students from the university are periodically victimized by the "diverse" citizens.
I went to a highschool that as 50% black, 10% Hispanic, and 10% Asian. Whites were a minority in the school. Crime was rife in the school and violence was quite common; most groups socialized among themselves and did not interact at all. My kids went to a highschool that was 15% Black, 5% Asian, and 5% Hispanic- the balance white. They had more "minority" friends than I did in highschool and routinely interacted with all students. There was no crime in the school whatsoever.
I am wondering what is the touted advantages of "diversity", as I see more negatives than positives. I understand the goal and perceived benefit, but I rarely see that occur when implemented. Any thoughts?
I think you see diversity as inherently the problem, as opposed to seeing the oppression of people who are different as the problem. If Japan decided to bring in Chinese or Hmong, centuries ago, and oppress their energies to the benefit of the Japanese people....then Japan would have the same issues with the aftermath of the diversification. It's not diversity that is the problem.....its how your diversity was created that is the problem in the US. If you create diversity by bringing in a different race of people to oppress.....the nation is going to have to deal with the consequence of that.
America does not have a black problem. America has a descendants of those that it enslaved problem. The only thing race has to do with it is that is who America targeted for enslavement. Actions create reactions. Its not rocket science.
I think you see diversity as inherently the problem, as opposed to seeing the oppression of people who are different as the problem. If Japan decided to bring in Chinese or Hmong, centuries ago, and oppress their energies to the benefit of the Japanese people....then Japan would have the same issues with the aftermath of the diversification. It's not diversity that is the problem.....its how your diversity was created that is the problem in the US. If you create diversity by bringing in a different race of people to oppress.....the nation is going to have to deal with the consequence of that.
America does not have a black problem. America has a descendants of those that it enslaved problem. The only thing race has to do with it is that is who America targeted for enslavement. Actions create reactions. Its not rocket science.
So, actually you say that blacks has no fault at all in their insane crime rates?
I love the Russian store down the street. Best sour cream I've ever had. The empanada bar, the delicious gyro restaurant, all the shawarma restrauants, Maharaja, The King and I, the Mexican restaurants, the Bavarian Bierhaus (not to mention the bavarian beer garden down the street), etc. etc.
I find it interesting to go to my local library and hear Russian and Hebrew virtually every single visit. With that come books not likely found in libraries of homogeneous communities.
The Alliance Francaise a few blocks from my house and the french bakery across the street. It's great to smell the fresh bread every morning. A new Spanish Immersion school opening even closer. The German immersion school is across town.
The different perspectives the Mexican engineer brings to my office. Or the Indian engineer. Speaking with the mostly Latin American shop crew.
All of these things together give you a greater understanding of the world. Along with a greater appreciation.
Interestingly, a former patient of mine, a huge 6'6" 350 lb black guy who grew up in Iowa City and played football for Iowa told me that there is a part of town in which he will no longer go. Iowa City is, in my opinion, a small town that would ordinarily not have the same relative problems of a larger town. This guy is a local "homer" who is very educated and successful, but expresses regret at the "diversification" of his hometown with people who do not share his values.
Ok, so based on your name it is evident you are a sports fan. So tell me; what would sports look like without diversity? What kind of product would we see?
I think you see diversity as inherently the problem, as opposed to seeing the oppression of people who are different as the problem. If Japan decided to bring in Chinese or Hmong, centuries ago, and oppress their energies to the benefit of the Japanese people....then Japan would have the same issues with the aftermath of the diversification. It's not diversity that is the problem.....its how your diversity was created that is the problem in the US. If you create diversity by bringing in a different race of people to oppress.....the nation is going to have to deal with the consequence of that.
America does not have a black problem. America has a descendants of those that it enslaved problem. The only thing race has to do with it is that is who America targeted for enslavement.
Funny thing is that Americans didn't inherently target Africans as slaves, the British did. The Americans certainly kept that business model operating for years, but if you're looking for reparations, go speak to the Queen Mother.
I for one, didn't meet any slaves or slave owners in my life, except for my little prison stint.
Are you saying that because America forced diversity, that blacks are going to lash out due to this? Would they prefer segregation?
So, actually you say that blacks has no fault at all in their insane crime rates?
I am talking about descendants of those enslaved by America.....not blacks. You need to separate the two. Black immigrants from Africa do not exhibit the same behavior as blacks who are the descendants of people enslaved by Americans. In fact, Ghana, a nearly all black nation and where many of the enslaved in America originated from, has a homicide rate lower than whites in America.....despite being a poor nation.
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