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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009
I often hear liberals tout "diversity" as being a wonderful goal that is obviously advantageous to everyone. The term "diversity" has been highjacked from genetics, in which genetic diversity is favorable for adaptation, and applied to social interractions with the presumption that it provides the obvious benefit seen in evolution.
However, the least diverse nations tend to be the most productive, wealthy, and crime free, while those nations with extensive ethnic diversity suffer. Diversity brings about lack of cultural cohesion, confusion over multiple different languages, and strife among the different ethnic groups. Witness the Bosnian War and the multiple wars in Africa- all fought over "diverse" groups failing to get along. Japan is an excellent example of complete lack of diversity, yet they thrive.
My alma mater was in a town that was essentially 100% white (sans the college students). A literal communist city council woman and subsequent mayor sought to make the city more "diverse" and actively recruited citizens from Chicago to come to the town. The town is much more "diverse" today with a much larger ethnic population. However, crime has gone up 10X, there is a part of the town identified and a "no go" area, city wide test scores have declined in schools, and students from the university are periodically victimized by the "diverse" citizens.
I went to a highschool that as 50% black, 10% Hispanic, and 10% Asian. Whites were a minority in the school. Crime was rife in the school and violence was quite common; most groups socialized among themselves and did not interact at all. My kids went to a highschool that was 15% Black, 5% Asian, and 5% Hispanic- the balance white. They had more "minority" friends than I did in highschool and routinely interacted with all students. There was no crime in the school whatsoever.
I am wondering what is the touted advantages of "diversity", as I see more negatives than positives. I understand the goal and perceived benefit, but I rarely see that occur when implemented. Any thoughts?
I'll note the lack of factual support for what at this point are merely allegations as well as nothing causal relating to diversity.
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It means speaking English, not wearing a veil, and embracing the laws and culture of the US.
If you transfer the laws and culture of your native land, you are essentially importing what you fled in the first place,
Culture is things like food, music, art, etc., please do tell us what lands people flee because of those things? Personally, I believe those things from other lands add a lot to American life.
The prerequisite for not valuing diversity is having a superiority complex. What is the value of others if they are inferior? They can't teach you anything and will only weigh you down.
I often hear liberals tout "diversity" as being a wonderful goal that is obviously advantageous to everyone. The term "diversity" has been highjacked from genetics, in which genetic diversity is favorable for adaptation, and applied to social interractions with the presumption that it provides the obvious benefit seen in evolution.
However, the least diverse nations tend to be the most productive, wealthy, and crime free, while those nations with extensive ethnic diversity suffer. Diversity brings about lack of cultural cohesion, confusion over multiple different languages, and strife among the different ethnic groups. Witness the Bosnian War and the multiple wars in Africa- all fought over "diverse" groups failing to get along. Japan is an excellent example of complete lack of diversity, yet they thrive.
My alma mater was in a town that was essentially 100% white (sans the college students). A literal communist city council woman and subsequent mayor sought to make the city more "diverse" and actively recruited citizens from Chicago to come to the town. The town is much more "diverse" today with a much larger ethnic population. However, crime has gone up 10X, there is a part of the town identified and a "no go" area, city wide test scores have declined in schools, and students from the university are periodically victimized by the "diverse" citizens.
I went to a highschool that as 50% black, 10% Hispanic, and 10% Asian. Whites were a minority in the school. Crime was rife in the school and violence was quite common; most groups socialized among themselves and did not interact at all. My kids went to a highschool that was 15% Black, 5% Asian, and 5% Hispanic- the balance white. They had more "minority" friends than I did in highschool and routinely interacted with all students. There was no crime in the school whatsoever.
I am wondering what is the touted advantages of "diversity", as I see more negatives than positives. I understand the goal and perceived benefit, but I rarely see that occur when implemented. Any thoughts?
I have not read a simple reply to your OP, but I'd bet that many liberals/leftist are aghast at you even bringing up such a non-PC subject.
Lets assume your general view is accurate as well, you are likely being called a ___ist or _____phobe for stating facts, because the left is "triggered" by such comments.
On a related note, when leftists like to tout other countries lack of crime, universal healthcare, etc. it is most related to countries that are not diverse. Ethnic/religious/racial differences in a society are going to cause more strife than those in homogeneous countries.
America use to be a pretty good example of how a melting pot can work if various groups assimilate into one culture.
Was/is it perfect?
Of curse not, nothing is, even the Scandinavian or Oriental countries.
But by and large we were doing well and getting better.
Then came along our "post racial president" and he was a professional rabble rouser, which has set back race relations in incalculable ways for decades to come.
Now there is even open talk of reparations and other divisive things from his party.
Even if an agreed $ figure could be given to anyone supposedly related to former slaves, that is not going to make us suddenly economically equal(especially not all the poor white people).
I could go on, but do not want to lead this topic in a different direction. Suffice it to say, while diversity in and of itself is not something to purposely avoid, nor is it something that will make a culture great or better. But the SJW's and liberal social engineers think it is despite evidence to the contrary.
One wonders if Bernie and others will ever point out how the so called "socialist countries" they hold up as examples of Utopia, will ever note their racial/ethnic homogeneity?
There is no excuse for ignorance. When you spend all your time with people who look ike you, think like you, worship like you, are in the same general economic class as you, that breeds ignorance. Funny thing about diversity. Humans are more alike to one another than they are different. It's just that the outward appearances stops some folks in their tracks. Ignorance.
Not everything is worth knowing, and not everyone is worth knowing. Calling it ignorance doesn't mean anything.
You're obviously ignorant of what life is like on Mangoli Island, Indonesia, but so what? And while you might learn a lot, do you really want your entire neighborhood to be Afghani-Muslims?
Sitting around calling everything ignorance, is stupid.
Barrington is all white. Easy to preach about the virtues of diversity from there. Must be nice living in an all white conservative town, but preaching of the virtues of diversity. Are you a registered Democrat by chance? lol
I am politically agnostic. I have never voted a straight ticket. Illinois does not require registering by party.
I grew up in Chicago. We moved every year when the landlord raised the rent. My father was a taxi driver and KKK member and participated in the Cicero riots before I was born. He would be viewed as a white supremacist, today. I grew up in the front seat of a taxi cab and know the city, well.
I get a better bang for the $ in my town, than the city. It really is that simple.
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