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Why should you or Warren be concerned why a Private Company pays their employees?
You didn't ask me, but the answer is obvious: she's setting the stage to subsidize daycare workers' salaries by advocating for federally-run pre-K programs.
Why should you or Warren be concerned why a Private Company pays their employees?
Why shouldn't everyone be concerned that the people caring for the next generation are not well compensated? Why wouldn't anyone believe that employees should be compensated according to their educational achievements? Why are preschool teaching salaries so low? Why does this have to be spelled out to anyone past the age of 10?
I honestly believe with all my heart, especially given the track record of the left, progressives, socialists, Marxists and communists that the ONLY reason Elizabeth Warren is promoting the idea is so they can start indoctrinating your children at an even younger age, and many people won't even recognize that is what is happening to their children until it is way too late.
Why shouldn't everyone be concerned that the people caring for the next generation are not well compensated? Why wouldn't anyone believe that employees should be compensated according to their educational achievements? Why are preschool teaching salaries so low? Why does this have to be spelled out to anyone past the age of 10?
You think that a pre-school "teacher" (aka, day care worker) should be compensated the same as a someone with a Master's, teaching math to 6th graders"?
And of course employees are compensated according to their level of education! It seems that you want to "equalize" everyone so that professional educators, with advanced degrees in their field, should be viewed as on the same level as a day-care worker.
If you want to earn more money, stop complaining that day-care workers supervising three-year-olds deserve the same salary as a public school teachers developing and executing upon complex lesson plans. Get a job as an actual teacher.
You think that a pre-school "teacher" (aka, day care worker) should be compensated the same as a someone with a Master's, teaching math to 6th graders"?
And of course employees are compensated according to their level of education! It seems that you want to "equalize" everyone so that professional educators, with advanced degrees in their field, should be viewed as on the same level as a day-care worker.
Don't put words in my mouth. That's not what I said at all. Reading is fundamental. We teach that in preschool now.
You're refusing to recognize that preschool teachers are educated professionals. So really, there's no point attempting a conversation with someone who willfully doesn't acknowledge facts.
Don't put words in my mouth. That's not what I said at all. Reading is fundamental. We teach that in preschool now.
You're refusing to recognize that preschool teachers are educated professionals. So really, there's no point attempting a conversation with someone who willfully doesn't acknowledge facts.
I thought we were talking about daycare workers. Isn't that who Warren said should be paid as much as professional educators?
And pre-school is not necessary at all. What IS necessary is that a child begin school at 5, in kindergarten. Anything before that is up to the parents: they can have one stay at home to care for the child, or put the child in a "baby-sitting" daycare setting, or, for competitive parents already eyeing Harvard or some fancy-schmancy prep school, enroll their kid in an actual pre-school and pay the fees for it. It's up to the market to determine how much that is worth.
Don't put words in my mouth. That's not what I said at all. Reading is fundamental. We teach that in preschool now.
You're refusing to recognize that preschool teachers are educated professionals. So really, there's no point attempting a conversation with someone who willfully doesn't acknowledge facts.
Are you admitting preschoolers are being taught equal outcomes, regardless of equal ability, effort and financial worth as the ultimate goal? As in a preschool teacher (baby sitter) should make the same as a professor or even as the Dean of a university? It's nice to see you admit it.
One thing is certain, there isn't much reading being taught in daycare or preschool... well no phonics reading that is. Maybe the see a word with a picture and memorize that set of symbols (letters) to mean what the picture shows is being taught, but NOT phonics. Not in DAYCARE and not in preschool.
You unwittingly offered further PROOF of my hypothesis. A hypothesis I backed up with link after link of supporting information. The hypothesis that you, and people of your political ideology, seek to indoctrinate young children into believing that EVERYONE should be a winner and get a participation trophy just for entering the race, even if they don't run the race much less actually win the race.
FREE trophies for everyone (except those who don't agree with our agenda, or those who [insert unacceptable politi-think here].
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I thought we were talking about daycare workers. Isn't that who Warren said should be paid as much as professional educators?
And pre-school is not necessary at all. What IS necessary is that a child begin school at 5, in kindergarten. Anything before that is up to the parents: they can have one stay at home to care for the child, or put the child in a "baby-sitting" daycare setting, or, for competitive parents already eyeing Harvard or some fancy-schmancy prep school, enroll their kid in an actual pre-school and pay the fees for it. It's up to the market to determine how much that is worth.
She's talking about expanding actual school level classes down several years to all children and we don't need that and cannot afford that.
Parents who can afford it do put their kids in the best Preschools already. Small inexpensive daycares should not be subsidized or forced to pay teacher wages.
Just like making College free, they want to make daycare free and provide the highest education and tax you and me for that expense.
The costs would be outrageous. These Leftist want to steal your and my money to pay for their free programs.
Too bad - state-licensed early education is here, and it's here to stay.
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Originally Posted by KS_Referee
Are you admitting preschoolers are being taught equal outcomes, regardless of equal ability, effort and financial worth as the ultimate goal? As in a preschool teacher (baby sitter) should make the same as a professor or even as the Dean of a university?
I'm saying preschoolers are taught to read and comprehend, which seems to be lacking in your post because I said none of those words in your quote. Perhaps you need to step into a preschool classroom and see what the kids are doing? You might learn something.
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She's talking about expanding actual school level classes down several years to all children and we don't need that and cannot afford that.
Parents who can afford it do put their kids in the best Preschools already. Small inexpensive daycares should not be subsidized or forced to pay teacher wages.
programs.
Curriculum based, state licensed early education is already here, and has been for 25 years. Parents demand it and the state department of education demands it. State licensed early childhood education has educational requirements for teachers. If you don't like it, take it up with your state legislature.
You do realize that many daycares DO have lesson plans and offer much more than babysitting, right? They don’t just sit around doing nothing all day. Many do have college degrees. I have met people who actually had teaching degrees and certifications who were working in daycares.
and they do so by choice.
I'm still trying to figure out how....
Daycare costs too much, so that a lot of working spouses (of either gender) can't afford to get a job to pay the daycare....
so....
let's raise the pay of the daycare workers (which is probably the largest cost factor in a daycare).
Is there REALLY some expectation that by increasing pay all the spouses on the sidelines will now become daycare workers? And that will make all the difference in the world?
btw, sickofnyc - that's what I am referring to. If it's really confusing to you and the other poster, I'm very sorry.
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