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Old 05-14-2019, 08:43 PM
 
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Perhaps there's a middle ground to it all. The US is quite aggressive as it has the means to project its power globally. At the same time, the other countries you mentioned would be far worse if the ever had that kind of power. The constant criticism of the US does play into those countries favor. Unfortunately, America tends to get aggravated easily, which is precisely why those nations poke it around, hoping it would make a silly move.



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What other country on earth is as an aggressive belligerent like the U.S.?
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^ This weak mindedness is precisely why countries like Iran, Russia, China, and North Korea continue to get away with undermining NATO and US strength.

You pacifists continue to play right into these countries' hands.
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Old 05-14-2019, 08:48 PM
 
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Iran is sinking into the ground, not much hope left.

Inflation, floods, drought, sanctions, war. Iran is over. The ancient historic Iran, that lasted throughout all time, is to be destroyed by a young arrogant country.

Sad.
I highly doubt it. Iran survived the destruction of the Persian Empire at the hands of Alexander the Great.

At the same time, I wouldn't equate the current regime in Iran with ancient Persian history. Iran is also a young and arrogant country, like many of its neighbors.
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Old 05-14-2019, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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^ This weak mindedness is precisely why countries like Iran, Russia, China, and North Korea continue to get away with undermining NATO and US strength.

You pacifists continue to play right into these countries' hands.
So you have no answer? That's what I thought. Keep supporting that idiot you voted for, even when he starts the next Middle East war.
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Old 05-14-2019, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Iran is sinking into the ground, not much hope left.

Inflation, floods, drought, sanctions, war. Iran is over. The ancient historic Iran, that lasted throughout all time, is to be destroyed by a young arrogant country.

Sad.
Iran is one of the most progressive countries in the ME, they aren’t going anywhere and it would be in our interests to work out a diplomatic solution rather than this ridiculous posturing.
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Old 05-15-2019, 08:20 AM
 
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Good god, Bolton is bat S insane. Literally a lunatic hell-bent on starting wars with everyone. How many trillions of dollars are we going to flush down the toilet over the next 20 years on Iran. Chill out for once GOP. Can we at least go one GOP term where you haven't started a war that costs crazy amounts of money? And then our European allies will have to deal with the influx of millions of more refugees due to our intervention where we shouldn't be.

But Bolton....man that dude needs to be neutered like a dog. He is a threat to the entire country.
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Old 05-15-2019, 08:26 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Good god, Bolton is bat S insane. Literally a lunatic hell-bent on starting wars with everyone. How many trillions of dollars are we going to flush down the toilet over the next 20 years on Iran. Chill out for once GOP. Can we at least go one GOP term where you haven't started a war that costs crazy amounts of money? And then our European allies will have to deal with the influx of millions of more refugees due to our intervention where we shouldn't be.

But Bolton....man that dude needs to be neutered like a dog. He is a threat to the entire country.
Bolton is the only person on the planet that still thinks that the invasion of Iraq was a major success. Scary.
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Old 05-15-2019, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Bolton is the only person on the planet that still thinks that the invasion of Iraq was a major success. Scary.
Yes, and he’s influencing Trump, who has no idea where Iran is on a map, and what and who Bolton is manipulating behind the scenes is truly troubling, for all we know he is bringing in a cadre of neocons from the Bush era to whisper sweet nothings in his ear, and as long as they pledge fealty to Trump, he will reward these bloodsuckers with their long sought war against Iran, all the while believing in his own brilliance to manage and oversee the campaign.

History provides a wonderful example from 80 years ago on how wars and governments on this type of footing usually end, and it’s not victorious, this we know.
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Old 05-15-2019, 08:55 AM
 
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Left 's desperate warmongering. Avoiding this war will define Trump s strength of character. He somehow resisted the Syrian war temptation, knowing well that its not Americas to fight.

Remember, if this war goes through , more American young men will be sent to frontline. If Elites want more money, give them more tax breaks.
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Iran is one of the most progressive countries in the ME, they aren’t going anywhere and it would be in our interests to work out a diplomatic solution rather than this ridiculous posturing.
I don't think so. Americans have a surprisingly positive view of Iranians from my experience, but I think this impression is false.

Outside of Tehran with a few hip cafes, malls, and young people, Iran is an aging society with conservative and local politics.

Does this mean they deserve to die? No.

But once the image of Iran as a young and progressive (relatively) society dies, there will be no saving it from total destruction.
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Now Saudi Arabia is accusing Iran of blowing up some oil pipelines in Yemen, none of this makes any sense.
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