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Old 05-06-2019, 02:02 PM
 
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The Washington Post? Media bias to the left. AFA Polls they are obviously not reliable. When I went to bed the night of the Presidential election, all polls pointed to Hillary as the winner. Well...they were all wrong.
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Old 05-06-2019, 02:02 PM
 
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Prosecutors can charge someone with anything. That does not mean they will get a conviction or the charge won’t get dismissed
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Old 05-06-2019, 02:03 PM
 
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Clinton also committed obstruction, and he was impeached for it. Are you saying you agree the same should happen to Trump?
Not that Clinton. Stopping a coup against you is not a crime except to the TDS inflicted and the ones attempting the coup.
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Old 05-06-2019, 02:04 PM
 
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Yet again you display your lack of knowledge on the subject.

No underlying crime is needed for obstruction to occur.

In regards to this investigation and the reason for its existence, there were underlying crimes, and there were indictments against plenty of people including Russians, the only question was whether Americans assisted the Russians in those crimes.
All of those were process crimes unrelated to the investigation of collusion with Russia.

There was no evidence of collusion, and no indictment of Trump, and as such, complete exoneration. This obstruction of justice nonsense is going to come crashing down when the AG starts dropping indictments on the originators of this hoax. Somebody is going to roll. Bruce Ohr doesn't look like he'd fare too well in prison. And I beleive it's going to go all the way back to the Obama admin and their spying on the Trump campaign.
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Old 05-06-2019, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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All of those were process crimes unrelated to the investigation of collusion with Russia.

There was no evidence of collusion, and no indictment of Trump, and as such, complete exoneration. This obstruction of justice nonsense is going to come crashing down when the AG starts dropping indictments on the originators of this hoax. Somebody is going to roll. Bruce Ohr doesn't look like he'd fare too well in prison. And I beleive it's going to go all the way back to the Obama admin and their spying on the Trump campaign.
The delusion is now complete.

I can only offer you the advice to step out of echo chamber for a bit.
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Old 05-06-2019, 02:09 PM
 
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Excerpt from legal dictionary on obstruction of justice:

To obtain a conviction under section 1503, the government must prove that there was a pending federal judicial proceeding, the defendant knew of the proceeding, and the defendant had corrupt intent to interfere with or attempted to interfere with the proceeding.

Why would there be a judicial proceeding if there's no crime? You think they convene courts for good times?

But, by all means, keep listening to the opinion of "former" prosecutors. LOL. What a joke.
A Grand Jury proceeding is a judicial proceeding, even if it doesn't result the issuance of an indictment on the underlying crime.
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Old 05-06-2019, 02:17 PM
 
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A Grand Jury proceeding is a judicial proceeding, even if it doesn't result the issuance of an indictment on the underlying crime.
This makes sense, but there has to be an underlying crime.
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Old 05-06-2019, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Near Falls Lake
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https://beta.washingtonpost.com/worl...27a_story.html

So here we have it folks.

The president is above the law.

The evidence would have been sufficient for an indictment apart from the absurd DOJ policy that the president is above the law that Mueller felt he had to follow.

How can we fix this?

I realize this has not been given great consideration before since he haven’t had a president so willfully hostile to our laws and system of government before but this has to change.

No one can be above the law.
Are we supposed to be impressed with the list? Given the large numbers of prosecutors that have existed since the Eisenhower administration, what does this number actually represent? A majority or just a tiny fraction? Would same prosecutors that feel Trump obstructed justice, also feel the same way about Hillary intentionally destroying equipment and emails? Trump is an easy guy to dislike and a certain percentage of said prosecutors would likely do/say whatever..... if they though it would contribute to his downfall.
No doubt they have access to all the information that Mueller sifted through.
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Old 05-06-2019, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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This makes sense, but there has to be an underlying crime.
Again, there was. People were indicted for it.
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Old 05-06-2019, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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https://beta.washingtonpost.com/worl...27a_story.html

So here we have it folks.

The president is above the law.

The evidence would have been sufficient for an indictment apart from the absurd DOJ policy that the president is above the law that Mueller felt he had to follow.

How can we fix this?

I realize this has not been given great consideration before since he haven’t had a president so willfully hostile to our laws and system of government before but this has to change.

No one can be above the law.
371 Fed Prosecutors agree that Mueller's evidence is not obstruction.
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