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Old 04-14-2008, 08:51 AM
 
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1) Please identify which Clinton you're whining about when you post, you're obvioius hatred of the entire clan makes it difficult to distinguish which one you're currently bashing

2) The rationale of Bush lying is the fact he intended to invade Iraq no matter what and used whatever he could, fact or fiction to promote his cause, mis-stating an IAEA Repooprt being a perfect example.
Last I checked, both Clintons either 1) Attacked Iraq or 2) voted to attack Iraq.
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Old 04-14-2008, 08:57 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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DUH DUH DUH I posted links....and the bushslaves refuse to acknowledge them...so whatcha gonna do?
I completely and utterly debunked any link you posted in this thread. . . .
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Old 04-14-2008, 09:05 AM
 
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I completely and utterly debunked any link you posted in this thread. . . .
In your own mind only....


You've learned from the master well, grasshopper
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Old 04-14-2008, 09:10 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Too funny. The first three links I clicked reported that:

- (CNN) 380 tons of explosives powerful enough to detonate nuclear warheads are missing from a former Iraqi military facility (CNN quoting a U.N. nuclear watchdog agency)

- One anti-Bush site that stated Bush's comment that Iraq was "six months away from developing nuclear capability" was wrong because the IAEA had said that "Iraq had been six to 24 months away from such capability."

- The third was an IAEA board finding noting "Iran's many failures and breaches of its obligations to comply" with its Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty Safeguards Agreement."

So now we're at 17 pages and no reference to an actual Bush lie. But not a total waste as we have even more confirmation of the real lie; that is, that Bush lied.

I guess you'll just happily ignore Bush making the claim that an IAEA report stated Saddam was 6 months away from a nuclear weapon?

A report the IAEA denies ever making.
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Old 04-14-2008, 09:16 AM
 
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Last I checked, both Clintons either 1) Attacked Iraq or 2) voted to attack Iraq.

Gee, you're not going to somehow try to pin Bush's predisposition to attack Iraq and the rationale for his lies on Clinton, Bill or Hillary?

I'd still like to hear why, soon after the 9/11 attacks several members of the Bush administration were looking for ways to tie Iraq to 9/11 when:

Early checks showed how many hijackers from Iraq? 0

Libya had a history of state sponsored terror against the US

Iraq had NO history of state sponsored terror against the US

So the biggest lie of all is that the adminstration took a rational approach to investigating/avenging 9/11
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Old 04-14-2008, 09:20 AM
 
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I guess you'll just happily ignore Bush making the claim that an IAEA report stated Saddam was 6 months away from a nuclear weapon?

A report the IAEA denies ever making.
Funny, both clintons made the same claim.
President Bill clinton Transcript: President Clinton explains Iraq strike - December 16, 1998

First, without a strong inspection system, Iraq would be free to retain and begin to rebuild its chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs in months, not years.

Senator Hillary Clinton
Floor Speech of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on S.J. Res. 45, A Resolution to Authorize the Use of<br>United States Armed Forces Against Iraq (http://clinton.senate.gov/speeches/iraq_101002.html - broken link)
In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program

Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons

I know, I know.. both clintons were lied to by Bush..
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Old 04-14-2008, 09:24 AM
 
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Gee, you're not going to somehow try to pin Bush's predisposition to attack Iraq and the rationale for his lies on Clinton, Bill or Hillary?

I'd still like to hear why, soon after the 9/11 attacks several members of the Bush administration were looking for ways to tie Iraq to 9/11 when:

Early checks showed how many hijackers from Iraq? 0

Libya had a history of state sponsored terror against the US

Iraq had NO history of state sponsored terror against the US

So the biggest lie of all is that the adminstration took a rational approach to investigating/avenging 9/11
No, I'm not trying to pinpoint Bushs predisposition on the Clintons, either one of them. I'm AGAIN trying to point out the inconsistancies in the liberals bs about Bush.

If your going to accuse Bush of outright lying, then you have to at least be honest and point out that Clintons used the same intelligence to come to the same conclusions, along with the rest of the world.

Last I checked, UN was investigating and taking actions against Saddam well before Bush was president, and to say that Bush lied for the purpose of drumming up some world wide conspiracy against Saddam is laughable. Bush wasnt president when the UN, or the world started to investigate all of Saddams atrocities.
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Old 04-14-2008, 09:28 AM
 
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Funny, both clintons made the same claim.
President Bill clinton Transcript: President Clinton explains Iraq strike - December 16, 1998

First, without a strong inspection system, Iraq would be free to retain and begin to rebuild its chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs in months, not years.

Senator Hillary Clinton
Floor Speech of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on S.J. Res. 45, A Resolution to Authorize the Use of<br>United States Armed Forces Against Iraq (http://clinton.senate.gov/speeches/iraq_101002.html - broken link)
In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program

Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons

I know, I know.. both clintons were lied to by Bush..
Please point out EXACTLY WHERE either Clinton says the IAEA has stated "Saddam is 6 months away from a nuclear weapon" ?

WHERE do they cite a non-existent report?

Simply saying he was working to rebuild his programs or "will keep trying" IS NOT the same thing.
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Old 04-14-2008, 09:30 AM
 
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No, I'm not trying to pinpoint Bushs predisposition on the Clintons, either one of them. I'm AGAIN trying to point out the inconsistancies in the liberals bs about Bush.

If your going to accuse Bush of outright lying, then you have to at least be honest and point out that Clintons used the same intelligence to come to the same conclusions, along with the rest of the world.

Last I checked, UN was investigating and taking actions against Saddam well before Bush was president, and to say that Bush lied for the purpose of drumming up some world wide conspiracy against Saddam is laughable. Bush wasnt president when the UN, or the world started to investigate all of Saddams atrocities.

You are sadly so obsessed with the Clintons you can't see much of anything else.

Bush LIED about a non-existent IAEA report, just where/when did the Clintons do the same?
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Old 04-14-2008, 09:41 AM
 
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If your going to accuse Bush of outright lying, then you have to at least be honest and point out that Clintons used the same intelligence to come to the same conclusions, along with the rest of the world.

If you're referring to Bill it's damn foolish to expect 1998 intel to be relevant after 9/11

If you're referring to Hillary, I don't believe the Congress has access to the same level of intel as the CinC
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