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Old 05-11-2019, 12:22 PM
 
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This is where I draw the line. No soda or other really useless junk BUT I don't like the punitive part of telling people what kind of meat they can buy. Few are going to buy fillet mignon anyway, but if, once a year, someone did to celebrate an anniversary or something, by all means, go for it.

I do not like punishing people for being poor and to make them suffer. I just want to stop the soda and other stuff that has hardly any nutritional value, stuff that makes people fat and sick. Food stamps should be for FOOD. As you mentioned above, acceptable food.
I worked as a cashier in a grocery store in the late 70's/early 80's. I could tell a food stamp order from across the store. When all of us were cutting back on meat due to prices skyrocketing, the food stampers would pull up with carts full of it.
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Old 05-11-2019, 12:31 PM
 
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I would love to see "double" dollars on Farmer's Market items..... it would help our farmers during this time and encourage super healthy foods
The trouble with farmer's markets stuff is that they bring the most ripe stuff and it goes bad quickly.
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Old 05-11-2019, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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It's a "feel-good" measure that will be popular with a variety of "New Puritans" and similar fig-leaf hangers and other promoters of legislated morality. But how enforceable it will be within the bureaucratic labyrinth, with possible Federal and state bureaucracies in conflict, is another matter entirely, since a functionary's first concern is to protect his/her own turf, staff, and budget, and when bureaucracies quibble, the taxpayer foots the bill.

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Old 05-11-2019, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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The trouble with farmer's markets stuff is that they bring the most ripe stuff and it goes bad quickly.
Not here, not in CA, not in Maui... but ok. Let's say produce, no matter where it's bought, as I said before..... let's just say "whole foods."

We could nit pick this to death, and forget the whole point is to encourage a healthier lifestyle.
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Old 05-11-2019, 12:48 PM
 
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So no cake or ice cream for little kids birthday parties. Leave it to a red state like Texas to go after the kids

Food stamps do not pay for birthday gifts either. The mean government should allow for that also?


If the parent wants a cake, bake one or save up and splurge on one. If there is a will there is a way. People even on food stamps are more resourceful than you give them credit for.


Big picture is serving healthier foods for their kids the 364 or so days that are not their birthday. That helps the kids.
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Old 05-11-2019, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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You can always make a cake.....
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Old 05-11-2019, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Q: Why would a state invest time, energy and money into legislation that will not be supported by the Fed?
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To shame people for being poor. The time, energy and money is all for the purpose of shaming.
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Old 05-11-2019, 02:58 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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There are plenty of Atkins dieters out there who would say baby carrots have too much sugar in them, and are, therefore, not part of a "healthy diet". They would legislate to prevent someone from buying baby carrots with food stamps.
Well, obviously, you don't eat 2 pounds of carrots in one sitting by yourself. You feed a family with that. And over multiple meals.
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Old 05-11-2019, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Well, obviously, you don't eat 2 pounds of carrots in one sitting by yourself. You feed a family with that. And over multiple meals.
If you go on any low carb/atkins/grain free forums you'll see people talking about carrots, potatoes and whole grains like their pure poison. They will insist these foods cause heart disease and diabetes.
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Old 05-11-2019, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Back in the olden days, it was like that in Texas. No crap with snap. You could buy orange juice but not orange drinks. No chips, cookies, etc. Then somebody decided that poor kids need cookies and cokes, too. Then the fast food people started in with we should not deny poor people fast food.

IMO, if tax dollars are paying for the grocery bill, then the taxpayers get to decide what should be purchased. That goes for reduced and free lunches, too. If the taxpayers are picking up the tab, we get to say no junk food. No empty calories like french fries and fatty pizza.
Pizza isn't empty calories, it has protein, iron, calcium and Vitamin D (especially if you get meat toppings); it just happens to also have fat and sodium, but that doesn't cancel out the nutrients it does have
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