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Old 06-05-2019, 12:53 PM
 
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Conservatives are Tribalism to an extreme. There is a very real reason the left have such a hard time with unity and the Right does not. The Left by and large focus on issues, and many of them are so hung up on different specific issues that they will attack each other as much as they attack the opposing Right.

The Right cares more about loyalty. This fact is why they are so willing to back "their team" even when presented with hard evidence that those individuals act in direct opposition to their supposed values.

You want to know why it doesn't make sense that they cry about things like universal health care, but don't cry about the trillions spent on pointless wars? Because it isn't made to make sense. You will never logic your way out of people who are climate change deniers, deficit apologists, border wall supporters etc. They are thinking on a tribal level, not a logical one.

This fact is because tribalism taps into fundamental conservative beliefs. Conservatives are much more sympathetic to things like authoritarianism, classism, racism, etc. because it is based fundamentally on the idea that some people are simply better than other people. And, often times, those "better people" are frequently people that conservatives can associate with themselves, whether that is "being an American, being a Republican, being a Texan, being white, being a man, being a soldier, being wealthy etc."

So, when a man comes up and says "I am you, but I am the best of you. I am a White, wealthy, American man, and I am here to tell you that Climate change doesn't real." You just accept that as fact because you're not going to crucify one of your own, especially if you believe he is better than you.

This fact is why the left is far more likely to crucify their own over "petty" things. You think Anthony Weiner or Al Franken would be out of office if they were Republicans? When was the last time you saw Republicans call for the resignation of one of their own over a sex scandal, an indictment, a racist past, etc. ? It's not impossible, but it is far from common. They are far more likely to call for their head when they trample on "their side's" policies like Gun control or Abortion.

The "Left" isn't perfect, but it is FAR less susceptible from this tribalism, and it causes them to be fractured. This is why you see nuts on the left tend to be isolated into pockets unable to form a good coalition, because they are typically not immune from criticism from "their own side."

The problem is the Democrats act like the Right has those same standards, but the Right takes advantage of the loyalty of their base, and in brilliant fashion.


Agree or disagree?

Bonus: someone stated “Democrats fall in love, conservatives fall in line”..

 
Old 06-05-2019, 12:59 PM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Antifa is tribalism on steroids.

Antifa is left.

SJW on campus...

Pot meet kettle and all that fun stuff.
 
Old 06-05-2019, 01:00 PM
 
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Antifa is tribalism on steroids.

Antifa is left.

SJW on campus...

Pot meet kettle and all that fun stuff.
Maybe Antifa are conservative liberals? Living contradictions?
 
Old 06-05-2019, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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The left is full of people from actual tribes.
 
Old 06-05-2019, 02:23 PM
 
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The left is full of people from actual tribes.
Ok.
 
Old 06-05-2019, 03:06 PM
 
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Bonus: someone stated “Democrats fall in love, conservatives fall in line”..
This to me sums it up best, it also describes exactly what your post was about.
 
Old 06-05-2019, 03:08 PM
 
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the left wants the government to pay for everything using the right money
 
Old 06-05-2019, 03:10 PM
 
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the left wants the government to pay for everything using the right money
Nah, Blue states provide more money overall then they take in and Red states are subsidized by them.

Robert B. Reich: How blue states help red states

Also, your comment isn't in relation to ANYTHING in the OP and factually incorrect.
 
Old 06-05-2019, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Nah, states provide more money overall then they take in and Red states are subsidized by them.

Also, your comment isn't in relation to ANYTHING in the OP.
States are not individuals.
 
Old 06-05-2019, 03:20 PM
 
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the left does not focus on issues what a load of nonsense
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