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Old 06-21-2019, 09:36 AM
 
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Seeing eye dogs are different and should be treated differently from Service dogs that are nothing but a little security blanket for Tiffany to be able to bring Snuggles anywhere she wants.
A seeing eye dog IS a service dog. An emotional support animal is NOT a service animal. You’re getting it confused.
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Old 06-21-2019, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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You are confusing actual service dogs from "therapy dogs" or "support dogs", which is really just a whole bunch of nothing. True service dogs provide an important service, and are trained so that they can be anywhere, and do so safely and cleanly.

I agree with others, there should be some way to legally identify a true service dog without having to ask people for anything, and there (IMO) should be huge penalties for people that fake it.
Yes, I may be, but there doesn't seem to be clear standards for each. Maybe I just haven't seen them, but I have read a lot of different things and what I think used to be therapy or support dogs are actually being called Service Dogs today. I may be wrong, as the only dog I've had has been a "Hunting Dog" so.....
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Old 06-21-2019, 09:41 AM
 
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Yes, I may be, but there doesn't seem to be clear standards for each. Maybe I just haven't seen them, but I have read a lot of different things and what I think used to be therapy or support dogs are actually being called Service Dogs today. I may be wrong, as the only dog I've had has been a "Hunting Dog" so.....
No, they are not service dogs. The owner is probably claiming it’s a service dog when it’s really not.
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Old 06-21-2019, 09:53 AM
 
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the ADA allows for service animal accommodation in restaurants and other businesses. proper service dogs are well trained, and stay out of the way of everyone.


and service dogs do provide various services for those that need such dogs. i am a type two diabetic, i dont rely on a service dog to let me know when my blood sugar is off, high or low. however some diabetics, especially type ones, cant tell when their sugars are too low or too high, but the dog CAN. if a persons blood sugar gets too high it can be just as dangerous as it being too low. and a type one diabetic can have their sugars move quickly in one direction or the other, even when they are eating.


and what about blind people going shopping, or going to a restaurant? are you goin to deny them service because they have a seeing eye dog, AKA service dog, with them?



i agree that the use of service animals has been abused, and that there needs to be training and licensing of service animals, but there also needs to be education of the general public about service animals, what they do, where they can go, and the relevant sections of the ADA that apply to service animals. and this includes law enforcement as well.
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Old 06-21-2019, 09:56 AM
 
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Cause it can tell when he has low blood sugar apparently...
Why would you need to know if you have low blood sugar at a restaurant when you're about to eat anyway?
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Old 06-21-2019, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Why don't people get that people don't want to eat in an establishment where a dog can shake his fur all over the air and scratch, slobber etc????

If you have special needs that needs a service dog, then use the special accommodations that are offered by the owners of the establishment such as eating outside. OR LEAVE YOUR DOG AT HOME. OR JUST LEAVE.

...........and I love dogs as much as anyone.
Same argument can be made about smoking in restaurants. Why should I or anyone else be forced to breathe in someone else's smoke? Yet there are people who vehemently advocate for smoking in public places.
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Old 06-21-2019, 10:27 AM
 
Location: NC
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Same argument can be made about smoking in restaurants. Why should I or anyone else be forced to breathe in someone else's smoke? Yet there are people who vehemently advocate for smoking in public places.
Smoking is a choice, having a (valid) disability is not. Due to this fact, there is really no comparison.
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Old 06-21-2019, 10:29 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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Brainstorm. Maybe if you have a child with a low blood sugar problem perhaps you should not take him to a restaurant or just do carry out. Perhaps we should have pets that can sniff out lawsuits?
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Old 06-21-2019, 10:42 AM
 
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Juvenile diabetes is a much more serious condition than type 2. Kids can go into a diabetic coma and die. These dogs are expensive so if he has one he needs it. The federal law is clear about service dogs. The restaurant will be in trouble. Blind people can’t leave their dog outside. They have a right to the same services as everyone else. Some of these comments clearly demonstrate that people have no clue about the difference between real service dogs and what people with disabilities go through in their everyday lives.
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Old 06-21-2019, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Why does a diabetic person need a 'service dog' in a restaurant with the parents around.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/fami...224943618.html
All of sudden, everybody needs a service dog.
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