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Old 07-04-2019, 07:22 AM
 
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We've been telling you guys for decades that the demographics were changing in this country. And now you're surprised? That's what happens when you routinely ignore things that you don't want to believe. The real world eventually forces you to accept reality.

What a shock it is for the ignorant when that happens. It's actually pretty funny to watch.
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Old 07-04-2019, 07:25 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Smh. Why does it matter?

Are they healthy? Are they doing well academically? Those are the pertinent questions that those who associate with right or left need to ask.
No, they are not: US public K-12 educational results. The US is increasingly sinking into third world under-educated and unskilled worker status. Fewer workers will be qualified to fill demanding jobs. The US will become a cheap labor country like many of the countries from which goods are now imported.

Here's the reality.

Percent of 12th grade students of each race/ethnicity who are proficient or above, by race/ethnicity group:

Mathematics:

Overall: 26%

Asian/Pacific Islander: 47%
White: 33%
American Indian/Alaska Native: 12%
Hispanic: 12%
Black: 7%

Reading:

Overall: 38%


Asian/Pacific Islander: 47%
White: 47%
American Indian/Alaska Native: 26%
Hispanic: 23%
Black: 16%

National Assessment of Educational Progress - NAEP - 12th Grade Mathematics and Reading

BTW, it isn't a funding issue. Many school districts (e.g., Camden, NJ, Washington, DC, etc.) spend $20,000+ per student per year and still yield abysmal results.

Furthermore, the dramatic increase in an under-educated and no/low-skilled cheap labor class will decrease federal income tax revenue, exacerbating the problem.

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Old 07-04-2019, 07:44 AM
 
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No, they are not: US public K-12 educational results. The US is increasingly sinking into third world under-educated and unskilled worker status. Fewer workers will be qualified to fill demanding jobs. The US will become a cheap labor country like many of the countries from which goods are now imported.

Here's the reality.

Percent of 12th grade students of each race/ethnicity who are proficient or above, by race/ethnicity group:

Mathematics:

Overall: 26%

Asian/Pacific Islander: 47%
White: 33%
American Indian/Alaska Native: 12%
Hispanic: 12%
Black: 7%

Reading:

Overall: 38%


Asian/Pacific Islander: 47%
White: 47%
American Indian/Alaska Native: 26%
Hispanic: 23%
Black: 16%

National Assessment of Educational Progress - NAEP - 12th Grade Mathematics and Reading

BTW, it isn't a funding issue. Many school districts (e.g., Camden, NJ, Washington, DC, etc.) spend $20,000+ per student per year and still yield abysmal results.

Furthermore, the dramatic increase in an under-educated and no/low-skilled cheap labor class will decrease federal income tax revenue, exacerbating the problem.
So let the overall well-being of American children be the focus. They are the future.
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Old 07-04-2019, 07:45 AM
 
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And this matters because ?
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Old 07-04-2019, 07:48 AM
 
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So let the overall well-being of American children be the focus. They are the future.
When $20,000+ per student per year is spent on public K-12 education with the same abysmal results for anyone other than Asians and Whites, what else can be done? Funding isn't the problem. Something else is going VERY wrong.
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Old 07-04-2019, 07:49 AM
 
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What census??? No one ever talk or asked me anything....how did they get their information?
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Old 07-04-2019, 07:49 AM
 
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US public K-12 educational results. The US is increasingly sinking into third world under-educated and unskilled worker status. Fewer workers will be qualified to fill demanding jobs. The US will become a cheap labor country like many of the countries from which goods are now imported.
We don't value education in this country. Teachers teach their students to pass standardized tests instead of critical thinking skills. We treat teachers like crap, we cut education dollars, we make it difficult for kids to afford higher education. And then we wonder why Americans are falling behind. It's not rocket science (which fewer and fewer Americans are capable of). It's about not putting education first. And it shows when you compare American students to rest of the first world countries.
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Old 07-04-2019, 07:50 AM
 
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It appears the democrats nefarious plans are coming to fruition. Kill off the evil and racist white race.



https://www.brookings.edu/research/l...-census-shows/
What is so silly about the left is this. Even though whites are having less children. Whites having less children is not going to end white supremacy or white privilege. People of color will still support and expand America's hegemonic interest across the globe.
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Old 07-04-2019, 08:06 AM
 
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When $20,000+ per student per year is spent on public K-12 education with the same abysmal results for anyone other than Asians and Whites, what else can be done? Funding isn't the problem. Something else is going VERY wrong.
Ummm...perhaps we are not viewing the same results. The results for Asians and Whites are poor as well, just not as poor as the others. Not one group is over 50 percent. That is horrible.

At least 80 percent of each group should be proficient. Anything less is unacceptable. We have work to do.
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Old 07-04-2019, 08:12 AM
 
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We don't value education in this country. Teachers teach their students to pass standardized tests instead of critical thinking skills. We treat teachers like crap, we cut education dollars, we make it difficult for kids to afford higher education. And then we wonder why Americans are falling behind. It's not rocket science (which fewer and fewer Americans are capable of). It's about not putting education first. And it shows when you compare American students to rest of the first world countries.
Many of the US's worst performing public school districts spend $20,000+ per student per year and STILL get abysmal results. Funding isn't the problem. Something else is going VERY wrong in US K-12 public education. Even among Asians and Whites, less than half the students are proficient at grade'level reading and math skills by 12th grade.

More evidence of the problem... The OECD's PIAAC, given in 23 countries.
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"U.S. millennials performed horribly.

That might even be an understatement, given the extent of the American shortcomings. No matter how you sliced the data – by class, by race, by education – young Americans were laggards compared to their international peers. In every subject, U.S. millennials ranked at the bottom or very close to it, according to a new study by testing company ETS.

“We were taken aback,” said ETS researcher Anita Sands. “We tend to think millennials are really savvy in this area. But that’s not what we are seeing.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.caf173a2db29

Let that sink in...

"But surely America’s brightest were on top?

Nope.

U.S. millennials with master’s degrees and doctorates did better than their peers in only three countries, Ireland, Poland and Spain...The ETS study noted that a decade ago the skill level of American adults was judged mediocre. “Now it is below even that.” So Millennials are falling even further behind.


Interestingly, The Atlantic published an interesting article written by a college professor who looked into longitudinal research to try to pinpoint the problem. It turned out that the US's precipitous decline in K-12 educational achievement began and increased after tracking students by ability/skill-level was eliminated in favor of placing all students in mixed-ability classrooms.

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