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Old 07-04-2019, 08:27 AM
 
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Many of the US's worst performing public school districts spend $20,000+ per student per year and STILL get abysmal results. Funding isn't the problem. Something else is going VERY wrong in US K-12 public education. Even among Asians and Whites, less than half the students are proficient at grade'level reading and math skills by 12th grade.
But what is all the funding going toward? Teaching students to pass standardized tests, because those results determine the level of funding the school receives. We aren't truly educating our students, we're teaching them how to pass tests. No wonder American students compare so dismally against countries that actually educate their children.
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Old 07-04-2019, 08:32 AM
 
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Smh. Why does it matter?

Are they healthy? Are they doing well academically? Those are the pertinent questions that those who associate with right or left need to ask.
You and other leftists don’t get off that easily! EVERYTHING from the left has some focus on race or some other supposedly tortured group at the hands of white men. YOU are the ones who focus on race and now you say we shouldn’t and get away with it. I don’t think so!
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Old 07-04-2019, 08:33 AM
 
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Ummm...perhaps we are not viewing the same results. The results for Asians and Whites are poor as well, just not as poor as the others. Not one group is over 50 percent. That is horrible.
Yes, I addressed that in my post that includes the PIAAC results. US millennials, even those with graduate degrees and in the top 10%, lag their international peers.
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At least 80 percent of each group should be proficient. Anything less is unacceptable. We have work to do.
I also addressed that by referencing The Atlantic article in my prior post. We need to return to tracking students, like Germany does, for example. Students need to be grouped into classes by ability/skill-level and both the curriculum level and pace need to be adjusted accordingly to meet each class's educational needs.

The US K-12 public education system's propensity for mixed-ability classes one-size-fits-all education has been a major disaster as by definition, the curriculum and pace has to be aimed at below average to meet the majority of students' needs in each mixed-ability class.
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Old 07-04-2019, 08:34 AM
 
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Nobody is killing off whites. Whites are killing off themselves by not reproducing.
Whites are reproducing at normal levels. They aren't killing themselves off. Congress has just decided to flood our country with minorities both legal and illegal and this all stared back in 1965 under the evil Ted Kennedy.
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Old 07-04-2019, 08:38 AM
 
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The underperforming schools are located throughout the entire US. Again, while the performance of students other than Asians and Whites is abysmal, it's still true that LESS than half of the US's Asian and White students are proficient at grade-level skills by the 12th grade. Furthermore, the shockingly disappointing OECD PIAAC results confirms the same problem, even among those with graduate degrees (Master's, EdDs, and/or PhDs).

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Old 07-04-2019, 08:42 AM
 
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Why should that make us happy?

Why should we care one way or another what the race of newborns is? What makes me happy is the children being born healthy. That’s all that matters.
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Old 07-04-2019, 08:52 AM
 
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But what is all the funding going toward? Teaching students to pass standardized tests, because those results determine the level of funding the school receives. We aren't truly educating our students, we're teaching them how to pass tests. No wonder American students compare so dismally against countries that actually educate their children.
They shouldn't need to be "taught" to pass tests. The curriculum and pace should be providing adequate knowledge and skills. They're not. Therefore, the schools have to teach students to "pass a test." How about we return to tracking and academic rigor, as used in the better performing OECD countries (remember, the US is at the bottom of the OECD's PIAAC, even for those with graduate degrees) and let the chips fall where they may?

You see, as I've already explained, when the US public education system insisted on eliminating tracking and insisted on placing students in mixed-ability classrooms because that's supposedly more "fair," the curriculum and pace, by necessity, HAD to be aimed at below average in order to meet the majority of the students' needs in each classroom.
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Old 07-04-2019, 08:53 AM
 
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Yes, I addressed that in my post that includes the PIAAC results. US millennials, even those with graduate degrees and in the top 10%, lag their international peers.
I also addressed that by referencing The Atlantic article in my prior post. We need to return to tracking students, like Germany does, for example. Students need to be grouped into classes by ability/skill-level and both the curriculum level and pace need to be adjusted accordingly to meet each class's educational needs.

The US K-12 public education system's propensity for mixed-ability classes one-size-fits-all education has been a major disaster as by definition, the curriculum and pace has to be aimed at below average to meet the majority of students' needs in each mixed-ability class.
Agreed. I also wonder if our style of instruction is problematic as well. Perhaps we should be looking to other nations for guidance in that area.
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Old 07-04-2019, 08:54 AM
 
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Hey white people: have babies. Dozens of them.
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Old 07-04-2019, 09:00 AM
 
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Whites are reproducing at normal levels. They aren't killing themselves off. Congress has just decided to flood our country with minorities both legal and illegal and this all stared back in 1965 under the evil Ted Kennedy.
Actually, they don't. White Woman on average only have 1.72 babies. You need 2.1 per woman to replace yourself.

https://ifstudies.org/blog/number-2-...minority-women

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But the “white” fertility figure is a bit misleading, as it includes most Hispanics, who have historically had much higher birth rates than non-Hispanic whites. Looking at all Hispanics together, these women are missing nearly 19% of the babies that would have been born from 2008-2016, or about 2.2 million births, as their age-adjusted fertility rates have fallen from 2.85 births per woman to just 2.1, and continue to decline. Meanwhile, non-Hispanic fertility has only declined from 1.95 births per woman to 1.72, yielding about 2.3 million missing births. Solidly half of the missing kids over the last decade would have been born to Hispanic mothers, despite the fact that Hispanics only make up about a quarter of fertility-age women.
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