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You make clear your offended status as a black man. I readily admit that I could care less how blacks feel about this. In my opinion that is their problem not mine. I display and support the confederate flags and statues to honor southern heritage, to display my support for states rights in modern times and to display my defiance and utter disgust for the politically correct. Leftists and the politically correct are a cancer on the freedoms we Americans cherish, a cancer on the nation itself.
I know you don't care how I feel, or how Blacks feel about the Confederate flag issue. I don't expect you to care. This is why I am in favor of seeing Confederate flags burned and Confederate statues ripped down. I don't care what you THINK the Confederate flag stands for. The facts are far more important that what you want. You want to fly the Confederate flag. I don't care what you want. The facts count. And the facts say that the Confederate flag represents the Confederate cause. The Confederate cause was all about the South wanting to keep slavery so badly that it wanted to secede, and it was willing to fire on the USA. It is what it is. If you're going to fly that ugly rag known as the Confederate flag, at least have the guts to admit that it stands for something really bad. Own it for crying out loud instead of pulling this "southern heritage" bull feces. If it was truly about southern heritage, then alot more Black Americans, the majority of whom are southerners, would be flying that flag too. But I don't expect you to care.
Ouch. Well, that's not a very Christian thing to say.
No it is not. The way I see it, flying the Confederate sends a message. It sends a message of underlying hostility, and given what the Confederate cause is about, saying that it's "southern heriage" is kind of vague. What does "southern heritage" means? Who does it include and represent? What is it all about?
How do you feel about the federal flag since that was the one slavery began under? Or Lincoln as racist? Inconsistencies abound
Nice try with the false equivalency crap and whataboutism. The USA did not fight Britain so that it could keep slaves. The Confederacy, however, did fight the USA so that it could keep slavery. I know about Lincoln. What does that have to do with why the Confederates wanted secession so badly?
I never heard of Confederate Railroad until this thread popped up. In fact, the only southern rock band I listen to is Atlanta Rhythm Section. I found out the band was established in Marietta,GA, about 20 miles from Downtown Atlanta. It's a city known for its town square, Lockheed Martin (formerly the Bell Bomber plant), and Kennesaw Mountain can be seen within view.
I think about this. I'm willing to bet that the majority of the band's listener base doesn't live in Marietta. I'm very familiar with Marietta,GA. It's southern in the aspect that it's in the South. However, having once lived in Marietta, and having frequently hung out in Marietta, it would have been hard for me to guess that Confederate Railroad had its origins there. Much of the population seems to be from somewhere else. There are flourishes of the Old South in Marietta. However, I find alot more hipsters, and it's a much diverse population than it was in 1980.
Marietta is home to the largest Confederate cemetery south of Richmond,VA. I've never visitied it, never will. I have no respect for Confederates. With that said, Marietta doesn't feel very "old south". All the times I've been in Marietta, I hardly every see anyone flying the Confederate flag. I never see anyone wearing shirts with the Confederate flag on them. On the other hand, if I go out to Paulding County, Douglas County, Carroll County, where there is much more of a "redneck" presence, it's not hard to find someone flying a Confederate flag from their porch or flying it from a car.
How does this relate to Confederate Railroad? There is some irony to all of it. It was founded in Marietta, but Marietta seems much more hipster-ish and far from the old south, even with a large Confederate cemetery being there.
Nice try with the false equivalency crap and whataboutism. The USA did not fight Britain so that it could keep slaves. The Confederacy, however, did fight the USA so that it could keep slavery. I know about Lincoln. What does that have to do with why the Confederates wanted secession so badly?
You know you are arguing with people who don't actually think about things but just repeat slogans to themselves in their head?
You can always be counted on to PWN some racist wingnuts.
The radicals demanding socialism and restrictions on our basic liberties will be the ones responsible for causing any civil war. The left will carry the burden of blame for it because one generation (millennials) do NOT have the right to fundamentally alter this nation in such radical ways. If you do not believe in capitalism, personal liberties including the right of free speech, expression and the right to bear arms then you are not in line with BASIC fundamental American values. If one generation tries to change the nation into some type of social justice and socialist utopia and we rebel against it the radicals themselves will be at fault for causing it. They will also face the consequences of it as the left has ZERO chance of winning in any kind of civil war or revolution. I stand by my statement.....the left is a cancer upon this nation.
You "stand" on the internet, tough guy. I am pretty willing to bet you wouldn't do **** outside this board if this mythical civil war you keep threatening were to ever break out.
In a state like Illinois the display of confederate flags could simply be an act of defiance against people who feel as you do. Many simply want the offended to get the message that they do not care what y’all think about the display of confederate flags and they will fly them regardless of how much it offends certain people. The conservative right is not going to yield on this issue. You see confederate flags all over the nation these days, many of them fly just to demonstrate the right to do so. We ain’t havin political correctness anymore.....done tolerating this un American nonsense.
This act of defiance is seen by most civilized people as being the modern equivalent of dunce cap. Keep wearing it proudly.
You know you are arguing with people who don't actually think about things but just repeat slogans to themselves in their head?
You can always be counted on to PWN some racist wingnuts.
I'd prefer if said individuals just go ahead and say why they really like the Confederate flag instead of coming up with things to justify how they feel. Making said individuals look really stupid and proving them wrong, they would have to admit to being wrong. Or at the least, they can't continue with their lies. One reason I ask some people to refute what I've said.
When it comes to people who don't think and just repeat slogans, this is how I see it. I don't think they are that stupid. They are just that much more dishonest. They figure that if they repeat a lie enough times, it becomes the truth. My tactic to battling such individuals includes:
1) Doing some research for myself, posting it, and then asking said persons to prove me wrong. They can call me a "liberal" or a "lefty" all they want, but they have to first PROVE ME WRONG. Prove where I've lied.
2) Back their own ideas up with some facts.
If they can't back up what they say, and if they can't prove me wrong, then they have been proven to be liars and can't be trusted. However, first they also have to admit that they've lied. After that, said individuals must admit how they really feel. Of course, getting a liar to admit his/her dishonesty is hard.
You "stand" on the internet, tough guy. I am pretty willing to bet you wouldn't do **** outside this board if this mythical civil war you keep threatening were to ever break out.
Those persons who burn Confederate flags have more guts. It isn't just the "internet tough guy" crap being pulled. It's the fact that some people can be dishonest. I have done my own research. Based on the Confederate Constitution, and the Articles of Secession, as well as the events of Bleeding Kansas, the Confederate cause was a fight to keep slavery. The South wanted secession so that they could keep on having slavery. This was in spite of the USA offering other solutions. The former Confederate states saw the U.S. government as a threat to their slave-owning way of life. They were willing to go to war for their way of life.
And about this civil war, what really happened was a ceasefire. There was a Confederate surrender. However, when it comes to ending wars, this is what should happen. An account of what happened, the war crimes committed etc. And then there should be a military tribunal. Having trials would be a good idea. Some Confederate general should have been tried for treason. Those who are found guilty, they should be punished. That never happened. It was a surrender, and then the Confederates were just brought back into society as if nothing happened.
Granted, this was done as part of the healing process. However, what really happened was a cold war. Instead of the north and south fighting, it turned into the South erecting Confederate monuments, the Jim Crow laws taking place, and calling the north "the enemy" in spite of the South firing the first shots.
Ever noticed how the Confederate flag was used as a symbol of resistance against the Civil Rights movement? Don't be surprised. The Confederate cause was about keeping slavery. Once that cause was lost, Confederate dream part 2 began, in the form of Jim Crow laws, and Confederate monuments being erected. And then the Confederate flag became that symbol of being against integration during the 50s and 60s. Nowadays, we have some individuals flying it because that's all they can do.
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