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Old 04-15-2008, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Southern New Jersey
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You can't negotiate with the government....they just take more and more of what you have, including your freedoms. So, the president saying "stop waving the Constution in my face, it's just a *** piece of paper" when confronted with his administration's violation of the Fourth Amendment can't be interpreted as trampling on it? What about the government using citizens as lab-rats? What about using tax dollars to bail out corporations?

 
Old 04-15-2008, 12:35 PM
 
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The took up arms because they were sick of tyranny. They took up arms because they believed in self government. Read the declaration of independence. To say they took up arms merely because they weren't represented in Parliment is completely false. You are nothing but a loyalist traitor anyway
Don't you know about the Whiskey Rebellion? In 1794 President George Washington, acting as general, Alexander Hamilton, and Harry Lee suppressed a tax rebellion in rural Pennsylvania levied against whiskey. Obviously George Washington and the other Founding Fathers had no problems enforcing tax laws and did not believe tax protesters were legitimate. Quite the contrary, Alexander Hamilton pushed the tax because he believed in extending federal authority over the states as a test case, and to pay down the Revolutionary War debts.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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You Internet tough guys are a riot.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 12:52 PM
 
Location: PA
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The day they nationalize health care and start a global warming tax or carbon tax or increase the gas tax another 50Cents that will be the time to revolt.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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The day they nationalize health care and start a global warming tax or carbon tax or increase the gas tax another 50Cents that will be the time to revolt.
Let me know time, date, and place. I'll bring the popcorn. This will be better than Wacko.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 01:27 PM
 
Location: 'Burbs of Manhattan
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The day they nationalize health care and start a global warming tax or carbon tax or increase the gas tax another 50Cents that will be the time to revolt.
They won't revolt over national health care.

There will just be massive mobs of poverty kids at hospitals. And, then all the doctors would get their rich asses transfered back to their suburban estates via helicopter.

Thus, the health care in the US will dissolve like water in a desert.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 01:40 PM
 
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If you don't like the current leadership, then vote for new leadership. Look outside the two-party system. It really is that simple.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Aren't these two statements

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They took up arms because they believed in self government.
and

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To say they took up arms merely because they weren't represented in Parliment is completely false.
contradictory?

Just sayin' ...
 
Old 04-15-2008, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Southern New Jersey
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Don't you know about the Whiskey Rebellion? In 1794 President George Washington, acting as general, Alexander Hamilton, and Harry Lee suppressed a tax rebellion in rural Pennsylvania levied against whiskey. Obviously George Washington and the other Founding Fathers had no problems enforcing tax laws and did not believe tax protesters were legitimate. Quite the contrary, Alexander Hamilton pushed the tax because he believed in extending federal authority over the states as a test case, and to pay down the Revolutionary War debts.
Before the Whiskey Rebellion there was the Shays Rebellion in Massachusetts. Alexander Hamilton also pushed a war with France, a National Bank, and the creation of an American empire. I'm sure he'd fit right in with today's tyrannical government. He'd LOVE the Fed.

The difference with the whiskey tax (excise tax, clearly is that the money was used to pay down debt from the Revolution. The INCOME tax is different than an excise tax; entitlement spending is different than war debt spending.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Southern New Jersey
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Let me know time, date, and place. I'll bring the popcorn. This will be better than Wacko.
Yeah, a bunch of women and children being crushed by tanks must have made your day.
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