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Old 09-22-2019, 04:13 PM
 
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President warren is going to stomp trump.
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Old 09-22-2019, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The formula for thumping Trump in 2018 was electing mainstream moderate Dems in red/moderate districts. Why on earth did Dems abandon that strategy?!!
Maybe the DNC has been infiltrated by those loyal to seeing the democrat party as we know it being completely destroyed.
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Old 09-22-2019, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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I don't care for Trump but looking at the people running for the dem nomination I don't have too much hope for a new President.

The people running on the Democrat side don't seem to have a firm grasp of reality. 22 Trillion in debt doesn't give you much room to offer "free" anything. Forgiving student loans turns off people that didn't go to college.

Medicare for all sounds nice BUT candidates have to be honest and tell people it will COST them. Nothing is free. "Reparations" will surely get the black vote but will probably turn off the other 87% of the voting public.
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Old 09-22-2019, 04:29 PM
 
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What the Dems should be running on is how Trump is increasing the National Debt. They should also be focusing on Trump’s lack of fitness for the office, of which voters are increasingly becoming aware.

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Old 09-22-2019, 04:44 PM
 
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None of the Dim candidates are doing much for me. Gabbard isn't too bad, but the DNC has buried her. I might have to vote for Trump. Hold my nose and pull the trigger I guess.
You put your finger on the reason Michael Moore predicted Trump would win in 2016 and would win today.
The Democrats started with a field of 24 and now down to about 10 or so. Normal People don’t like any of them much. Not only that ... but the Media has a favorite, the Far Left has a favorite, TeamObama has a favorite ... and none of those “favorites†match up.

Not a single one of them has anything positive to say about the USA.
They all try to outdo each other with Crazy schemes of FREE FREE FREE.
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Old 09-22-2019, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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The Demonics are way of course which will almost guarantee Trump's reelection...thanks dims!
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Old 09-22-2019, 05:13 PM
 
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The Demonics are way of course which will almost guarantee Trump's reelection...thanks dims!
They are left of George McGovern. Trump will win with much more ease than 2016.

By 2021, he should be replacing RBG.
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Old 09-22-2019, 05:21 PM
 
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Florida however does like Trump. The problem is what do states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan and Arizona (which Trump won but is not very liked) vote like. These four states could go blue and there goes trump if they hold. No Florida or Ohio needed. Trump expanded the map in 16, now he need to keep the map the same.

AZ will stay red at least another 12 years. Minnesota could flip to red. Small as it is, NH may flip to red also. Both were ultra close in 2016.

As for Rust belt, Trump just needed either 1 of Mi or Pa in 2016. The other was gravy on top. With any one, he has 270. Either w/o Wi still got him to 270.

Pa & Wi IMO will stay red. Obama masked a Pa DNC problem, by getting Philly voters out in numbers which no Dem ever saw, nor will it happen again. HRC got a Philly turnout like Kerry, Gore, & Bubba, and western rural Pa discovered their power, so they will return in huge numbers. Pa is more rural than urban in mindset than libs like to admit. It was not natural for Pa not to be tilting just as solid Red Ohio did.

Dems need to be on bended knee trying to win a few wwc deplorables back. 99% of them are gone to Team Red forever. They make up the Rust belt & Pa plurality. Can't get squashed by them and win states they have huge pluralities in.
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Old 09-22-2019, 05:30 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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Moore's got a point. I don't support Trump but most of the Democrat contenders have gone too far to the left. And Trump does have a fired up energetic base. Biden's more of a moderate but his campaign style unlike the current President is lackluster and boring.
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Old 09-22-2019, 05:34 PM
 
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I think it will be difficult to beat Trump.
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