Measles Disease wipes out immune system memory, vaccine does not. (drug, suspect)

[eastriver]

Originally Posted by Katarina Witt

You may have gotten a rubella only shot because you'd already had the other two.

Nope, no mumps shot. I had mumps the disease. Also chicken pox. We're all still here.

[Informed Info]

Originally Posted by Floorist

Because most of the links you post are from pro vaccine groups linked to shady money.

Read this one.

Research. Facts.

Not what you get from Jenny M. or Mercola...or whatever/wherever else anti-vaxxers get their "information" from.

[eastriver]

Originally Posted by Informed Info

Read this one.

Research. Facts.

Not what you get from Jenny M. or Mercola...or whatever/wherever else anti-vaxxers get their "information" from.

You forgot Bernadine Healy.

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by T-310

Let the antivaxxers go without immunization. Then they get sick and die, then the gene pool improves. Stupidity dies with them.

Unfortunately, a) it's the kids who pay the price. The anti-vax parents were probably vaccinated themselves and b) they can transmit the disease to people who can't be vaccinated for valid reasons, e.g. babies under 1 year of age, people whose immune systems are suppressed from chemo or disease, those few with other valid medical contraindications.

[Informed Info]

Originally Posted by eastriver

You forgot Bernadine Healy.

She wasn't an immunologist or an infectious disease physician.

You don't take your infant/kid to a plastic surgeon for well or sick visits.

[heart84]

Originally Posted by Katarina Witt

New research adds to what we know about measles wiping out immune memory, while showing that measles vaccine does not. Another good reason to get the measles (actually MMR) vaccine.
https://science.sciencemag.org/conte...9LdOMyAaDB3mes

Make sure everybody gets their vaccines like good little boys and girls. The propaganda push and fear campaign to vaccinate will be intense this winter. Big Pharma and the medical industrial complex will thank you greatly.

[coschristi]

Originally Posted by Katarina Witt

New research adds to what we know about measles wiping out immune memory, while showing that measles vaccine does not. Another good reason to get the measles (actually MMR) vaccine.
https://science.sciencemag.org/conte...9LdOMyAaDB3mes

Originally Posted by eastriver

Who didn't get measles before the mid 1970s?

The real problems were reported after the combined MMR.

I agree.

Katarina may be surprised to hear that I am not opposed the Measles vax; it is the one vaccine that has been noted to be correlated with decreased infant & child mortality, when studied with methods free from healthy-user bias.

Unfortunately; the measles only vax is not available in the US; we have the dumb MMR & the U.S. schedule places the MMR in a potential concurrency with the DPT (or TDAP). Under U.S. policy & program; there is no such thing as a safe vaccine.

[Katarina Witt]

I am not understanding your correlation of MMR and DTaP. You can certainly get one without getting the other. There is no evidence that the MMR or any vaccine is unsafe.

[heart84]

Originally Posted by Katarina Witt

There is no evidence that the MMR or any vaccine is unsafe.

Even on the CDC's own website they discuss potential "side effects" which include:

"Long-term seizures, coma, lowered consciousness, or permanent brain damage happen extremely rarely after DTaP vaccination."

Hepatitis b - "As with any medicine, there is a very remote chance of a vaccine causing a severe allergic reaction, other serious injury, or death."


Those are just from the first two vaccines listed on the CDC's own website.

[heart84]

CDC's own website pertaining to side effects from common vaccines linked here.

MMR vaccine potential side effects:

"Fever or swelling of the glands in the cheeks or neck sometimes occur after MMR vaccine.
More serious reactions happen rarely. These can include seizures (often associated with fever), temporary pain and stiffness in the joints (mostly in teenage or adult women), pneumonia, swelling of the brain and/or spinal cord covering, or temporary low platelet count which can cause unusual bleeding or bruising."

MMRV vaccine potential side effects:

"Seizures, often associated with fever, can happen after MMRV vaccine. The risk of seizures is higher after MMRV than after separate MMR and varicella vaccines when given as the first dose of the series in younger children. Your health care provider can advise you about the appropriate vaccines for your child.

More serious reactions happen rarely. These can include pneumonia, swelling of the brain and/or spinal cord covering, or temporary low platelet count which can cause unusual bleeding or bruising.
In people with serious immune system problems, this vaccine may cause an infection which may be life-threatening. People with serious immune system problems should not get MMRV vaccine."


Tdap vaccine potential side effects:

Moderate problems following Tdap:
(Interfered with activities, but did not require medical attention)

Pain where the shot was given (up to 1 in 5 or 6)
Redness or swelling where the shot was given (up to about 1 in 16 adolescents or 1 in 12 adults)
Fever over 102°F (about 1 in 100 adolescents or 1 in 250 adults)
Headache (about 1 in 7 adolescents or 1 in 10 adults)
Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach ache (up to 1 or 3 people in 100)
Swelling of the entire arm where the shot was given (up to about 1 in 500).

Severe problems following Tdap:
(Unable to perform usual activities; required medical attention)

Swelling, severe pain, bleeding, and redness in the arm where the shot was given (rare).