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Old 11-04-2019, 09:32 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Informed Info View Post
What propaganda does the CDC disagree with?

Is that the same as your unsafe anti-vax propaganda?

Where do YOU get your info from?

Stop twisting KNOWN facts (by all) in to some sort of "gotcha".

First off, you edited my original post and put a line in there I never said. Secondly, the statement was said that the MMR vaccine and other vaccines are completely safe. That is false statement because even on the CDC's own website as I listed in two different posts in this thread, the CDC lists potentially severe side effects from vaccines. And this is from the CDC!

 
Old 11-04-2019, 09:37 AM
 
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Who didn't get measles before the mid 1970s?

The real problems were reported after the combined MMR.
That is an interesting point and one more pediatricians should emphasize to their patients parents. All vaccines can be given on an individual basis, and many a MD will do so if asked.

The trouble is far too many people want the convenience of getting a bunch of vaccines in one shot or even one MD visit.
Unlike many a sheep, we never allowed multiple vaccines to be given at once, and took the time to come back a handful of times over a certain period.
We also didn't allow new vaccines to be given until there was adequate examples of safety after X amount of people had taken it over X amount of time.
If others want to be the first to try it, more power to them, as my family benefits from seeing if they were fools to be rushing in.


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Old 11-04-2019, 09:37 AM
 
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No, it comes from real science. Something the anti-vaxxers don't seem to understand.
By "real science" you mean studies back by Big Pharma, the medical industrial complex, vaccine industry, etc. Ah yes, real unbiased science!

Kind of like when a major soft drink manufacturer funded a study saying the sugar overload in sodas was no problem at all. Real science though!
 
Old 11-04-2019, 09:41 AM
 
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Evidence that pro-vaccine people are "deathly afraid" of the unvaccinated?
The 24/7 media onslaught hit campaign demonizing the "anti-vaxxers" (lol have to have a sinister sounding title for any good fear-mongering campaign) for starters.

Type in anti-vaxxers in a search engine and look how many hits you get just from the past 3 weeks under the news tab from "mainstream" sources.
 
Old 11-04-2019, 09:43 AM
 
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That is an interesting point and one more pediatricians should emphasize to their patients parents. All vaccines can be given on an individual basis, and many a MD will do so if asked.

The trouble is far too many people want the convenience of getting a bunch of vaccines in one shot or even one MD visit.
Unlike many a sheep, we never allowed multiple vaccines to be given at once, and took the time to come back a handful of times over a certain period.
We also didn't allow new vaccines to be given until there was adequate examples of safety after X amount of people had taken it over X amount of time.
If others want to be the first to try it, more power to them, as my family benefits from seeing if they were fools to be rushing in.


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Single antigen measles, mumps and rubella vaccines are not available in the US any more. I just read yesterday that single mumps and rubella vaccines are not manufactured anywhere in the world.

People didn't come back to get these single vaccines, that was part of the problem.

All vaccines have been thoroughly tested. None of these vaccines are new, and some are close to 100 years old now.
 
Old 11-04-2019, 09:48 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Vector1 View Post
That is an interesting point and one more pediatricians should emphasize to their patients parents. All vaccines can be given on an individual basis, and many a MD will do so if asked.

The trouble is far too many people want the convenience of getting a bunch of vaccines in one shot or even one MD visit.
Unlike many a sheep, we never allowed multiple vaccines to be given at once, and took the time to come back a handful of times over a certain period.
We also didn't allow new vaccines to be given until there was adequate examples of safety after X amount of people had taken it over X amount of time.
If others want to be the first to try it, more power to them, as my family benefits from seeing if they were fools to be rushing in.


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It's my understanding, and as a prior poster pointed out upthread, the constituent parts of the combined MMR are no longer available individually in the U.S., and has been that way for some time. An obvious question is why.
 
Old 11-04-2019, 09:53 AM
 
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By "real science" you mean studies back by Big Pharma, the medical industrial complex, vaccine industry, etc. Ah yes, real unbiased science!

Kind of like when a major soft drink manufacturer funded a study saying the sugar overload in sodas was no problem at all. Real science though!
Remember all the commercials about 10 years ago telling us high fructose corn syrup was healthy?

There was "science" that supported that too.
 
Old 11-04-2019, 09:55 AM
 
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Single antigen measles, mumps and rubella vaccines are not available in the US any more. I just read yesterday that single mumps and rubella vaccines are not manufactured anywhere in the world.

People didn't come back to get these single vaccines, that was part of the problem.

All vaccines have been thoroughly tested. None of these vaccines are new, and some are close to 100 years old now.
How is that a "problem"?

People can do what they CHOOSE to do ... RIGHT?

Or are you still for mandatory vaccination of the entire population?
 
Old 11-04-2019, 09:55 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Katarina Witt View Post

All vaccines have been thoroughly tested. None of these vaccines are new, and some are close to 100 years old now.
You said in an earlier post that all vaccines were completely safe including the MMR vaccine. I provided two separate posts in this thread that discredited your claim from the CDC's own website about potentially severe side effects from specific vaccines (including the MMR vaccine). So there's that, but I would also like you to explain why there is a National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program if they (vaccines) are all so thoroughly tested and safe?

Currently this compensation program has paid out approximately $3,884,371,778.86 to petitioners. Wonder why?
 
Old 11-04-2019, 09:59 AM
 
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Remember all the commercials about 10 years ago telling us high fructose corn syrup was healthy?

There was "science" that supported that too.

Yep! And peer-reviewed "science" that also said Monsanto's Roundup product was completely safe too. And guess who funded that research lol.
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