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My sister, a life-long loyal Democrat, said that a couple of months ago. They had a couple of reasonable candidates but they were pushed to the side so quickly most never even caught their name.
Your sister, might be a very astute political analyst.
The Elites have lost the Republican party. It is Trump's party now, and well on its way to being a working class party.
The Democrats are stuck in a battle between the socialists and the Elites. I think the Elites will always want ONE party that they can control.
They are losing control of the Democratic Party to the socialists.
To the Elites....having two parties in the US....One Socialist...the other working class leaves NO room for them.
For the Elites another four years of Trump would not be a disaster. Not having a political party that they control would be a disaster.
In their eyes, losing the election in 2020 to a Socialist Democrat would allow them to regain control of the party. Then they can look forward to once again ruling America in 2024.
My sister, a life-long loyal Democrat, said that a couple of months ago. They had a couple of reasonable candidates but they were pushed to the side so quickly most never even caught their name.
There are so many great comments and I'm glad there are Democrats on here. But I do feel the Democrats are throwing it fearing if a Democrat is president and the Economy takes a nose dive they will forever be blamed for a bad Economy. It's almost as if let Trump be president and experience the full effects of his presidency then revitalize the party after his second term with solutions to fix what potentially might go wrong.
Yes, Trump may get reelected. Or maybe not. Anybody who claims to know is full of it. Anything can happen between now and election day. One thing I do know, he will run an ugly campaign since he is full of lots of hate and ugliness to begin with.
I will vote against Trump. I am not thrilled with Warren but I would rather have her than Trump.
America is never going to be the same but it is not Trump's fault, it the fault of social media. It has allowed the proliferation of lies and conspiracy theories. It is just crazy what is going on with it. Trump and his gang are making great use of it to push their BS.
Yah, I wanted to highlight that. This is a new era. I'm 38 and I'm supposed to be a millenial but I largely feel a big disconnect between my world view and the world view of the under thirty crowd. My world view comes from witnessing the Berlin Wall and Journalistic Standards to report things. It also comes from a place of the nineties where all problems were solved and now onto a greater world.
Their world view may come from memories of Iraq and Afghanistan and overarching support for the war and the military and American Nationalism.
My World View comes from an SNL and Music and Movies that were productive in gently criticizing America or being counter-culture. That view is not there any more in music and I largely feel the arts have suffered for it.
So, the Conservative got everything they aspired for since Bush I. All I hear on the radio is conservative talk. Every movie is a super hero movie or action thriller, so I don't expect to see another Schindler's List or Forrest Gump. The Local Media in my Blue State is Conservative and just sits around and languishes in their beautiful weathy lifestyle. CNN lost as credibility when it decided to stop reporting news and start raking in on Trump's antics. It's cheap to report, doesn't really need a journalist, and will get ratings.
Then a while back 30,000 Journalist lost their job all at once. Well, Journalism has been on the outs since Bush II.
So, this is a new Era. So, the Conservatives one. I think every Trump Supporter got something they wanted even the poorest with them getting immigration and more Blue State Money, which I didn't know they wanted. Largely for the Blue State Democrat, the coastal states, we largely ignored the red state and didn't realize they had problems until they responded back with a demagogue who speaks just like they want him to and behaves on the world stage just as they think is right.
I will even write this may be the decline of America. But that's it.
I'm a Democrat, a Catholic Democrat. But for other Democrats who think this next election is a sure fire bet and America will go back to normal I may be the first telling you this but you may be wrong.
Here is what I know or think I know. All the stats say the wealthy received the biggest tax cut in history. Then all the stats say the Economy is healthy and booming with record unemployment and rising wages. Now, whether I agree with the stats or not is not the question that is how it is portrayed. Typically, in American History a President is given a second term when it looks this good. (Mind you I disagree with how it looks but that is what the media directors are presenting.)
That all works in Trump's favor. Then the top candidates may not be as strong to the general public as they are to their individual niche markets. I'm thinking Warren and Sanders. With Joseph Biden speaking to a broader audience, realistically he is old and speaks from a different era.
So, yes, Trump might get a second term. What do you think? What will you do? Is America ever going to be the same again?
For me I'll vote for any Democrat running against him. But when election night comes a year from now and potentially Trump wins don't say you didn't hear it from somewhere.
I've always thought Trump could very well get a second term. Perish the thought, but it could happen. There are too many people who believe his lies who will vote for him. I've heard those stats too about a healthy economy, but I've also heard from some (not mainstream media) that Trump and the Fed are doing whatever they have to do to pump up an ailing economy. So who knows?
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I like Klobuchar as well. I do think she has personality but she's not as forceful as Warren.
I also like Warren but I'm not a fan of rushing into Medicare for All. I'd rather start with a public option and see how that goes.
That said, each candidate on the stage is smarter and could run this country on hell of a lot better than President Twitter.
The problem with a public option is that it will just become a "high risk pool" and will be too expensive to stay afloat with no healthy people enrolling in it. It would be a true 2 tiered system
Dems have no platform and no candidate
The entire 4 year strategy has been make yourself look good by making others look bad
How is that working out
Who are the Dems trying to make look bad? If you're talking about Trump, he does that all by himself. He doesn't need their help. He's his own worst enemy.
It's not just possible that Trump is re-elected, it's all but a certainty at this point for just the reasons you mentioned. The economy, unemployment, rising wages along with the fact that the DNC candidates are a complete joke and you get 4 more years of Trump and likely the Republicans taking back the House.
If you'd have told me these things would happen before 2016, I'd have called you a liar, but here we are. The DNC forced Hillary, the only person Trump could have beaten, on everyone and now we've got unelectable garbage like Warren, Biden, and Bernie going against him. If I didn't know better, I'd think they were throwing the election on purpose.
DNC mess was created by Obama A/C/A fetish, as 1/20/09 to Election 2016, Dems lost net 1,200 statewide and DC seats. Those seats are the bench amongst whom future solid POTUS nominees come from.
The Democrats running are feeble, but face the facts. It is not like strong Democrats are not running. They do not exist in 2019. In short, Dems are NOT throwing the race, but they are as inept as the New York Jets of 2019.
I'm a Democrat, a Catholic Democrat. But for other Democrats who think this next election is a sure fire bet and America will go back to normal I may be the first telling you this but you may be wrong.
Here is what I know or think I know. All the stats say the wealthy received the biggest tax cut in history. Then all the stats say the Economy is healthy and booming with record unemployment and rising wages. Now, whether I agree with the stats or not is not the question that is how it is portrayed. Typically, in American History a President is given a second term when it looks this good. (Mind you I disagree with how it looks but that is what the media directors are presenting.)
That all works in Trump's favor. Then the top candidates may not be as strong to the general public as they are to their individual niche markets. I'm thinking Warren and Sanders. With Joseph Biden speaking to a broader audience, realistically he is old and speaks from a different era.
So, yes, Trump might get a second term. What do you think? What will you do? Is America ever going to be the same again?
For me I'll vote for any Democrat running against him. But when election night comes a year from now and potentially Trump wins don't say you didn't hear it from somewhere.
Trump is only 3 years, 6 months, and 3 weeks younger than Biden.
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