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Old 11-03-2019, 07:12 PM
 
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Yah, I wanted to highlight that. This is a new era. I'm 38 and I'm supposed to be a millenial but I largely feel a big disconnect between my world view and the world view of the under thirty crowd. My world view comes from witnessing the Berlin Wall and Journalistic Standards to report things. It also comes from a place of the nineties where all problems were solved and now onto a greater world.

Their world view may come from memories of Iraq and Afghanistan and overarching support for the war and the military and American Nationalism.

My World View comes from an SNL and Music and Movies that were productive in gently criticizing America or being counter-culture. That view is not there any more in music and I largely feel the arts have suffered for it.

So, the Conservative got everything they aspired for since Bush I. All I hear on the radio is conservative talk. Every movie is a super hero movie or action thriller, so I don't expect to see another Schindler's List or Forrest Gump. The Local Media in my Blue State is Conservative and just sits around and languishes in their beautiful weathy lifestyle. CNN lost as credibility when it decided to stop reporting news and start raking in on Trump's antics. It's cheap to report, doesn't really need a journalist, and will get ratings.

Then a while back 30,000 Journalist lost their job all at once. Well, Journalism has been on the outs since Bush II.

So, this is a new Era. So, the Conservatives one. I think every Trump Supporter got something they wanted even the poorest with them getting immigration and more Blue State Money, which I didn't know they wanted. Largely for the Blue State Democrat, the coastal states, we largely ignored the red state and didn't realize they had problems until they responded back with a demagogue who speaks just like they want him to and behaves on the world stage just as they think is right.

I will even write this may be the decline of America. But that's it.
How are we getting more blue state money? It seems we’ve been paying for your high tax state all along until the SALT deduction was taken away. We aren’t getting more of your money. We just aren’t paying for what you voted for in your own state, which is more fair.
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Old 11-03-2019, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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No you are misinformed. Bernie spent his honeymoon in Russia. Remember the USSR.. UNITED SOVIET SOCIALIST REPUBLIC.. Russia is communists socialists when they were the USSR.
The USSR fell apart 28 years ago, and Bernie's model is in line with Scandinavian countries. Warren is a capitalist, but just doesn't believe in laissez faire
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Old 11-03-2019, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Gods country
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Really?

Is that why, at the G7, the other G7 leaders walked the 700 yards from the group photo to the town piazza...and Trump took a golf cart instead .

And the other leaders got to the piazza before Trump did and had to wait for him.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...-sicily-2017-5
So Trump took a golf cart as apposed to walking the length of 7 football fields while the other leaders walked? Who is the smart one there?
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Old 11-03-2019, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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So Trump took a golf cart as apposed to walking the length of 7 football fields while the other leaders walked? Who is the smart one there?
Correction, who is the lazy one? Hint: it rhymes with dump....
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Old 11-03-2019, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Gods country
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Correction, who is the lazy one? Hint: it rhymes with dump....
You are a witty rascal!
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Old 11-03-2019, 07:19 PM
 
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Neither Warren nor Sanders are communists, you're misinformed
Sanders is.
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Old 11-03-2019, 07:22 PM
 
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Why is everyone forgetting mayor Pete? He is no socialist, has a reasonable moderate platform. He is climbing in the polls. Biden is done, Warren and Sanders are way too left. It's early days yet, but I would love to see him debate Trump, Trump would get killed.
He’s not going to win. He has zero black support, and in a general election they’d focus much more on his husband, and I don’t think America is there yet.
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Old 11-03-2019, 07:24 PM
 
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Correction, who is the lazy one? Hint: it rhymes with dump....

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Old 11-03-2019, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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I'm a Democrat, a Catholic Democrat. But for other Democrats who think this next election is a sure fire bet and America will go back to normal I may be the first telling you this but you may be wrong.

Here is what I know or think I know. All the stats say the wealthy received the biggest tax cut in history. Then all the stats say the Economy is healthy and booming with record unemployment and rising wages. Now, whether I agree with the stats or not is not the question that is how it is portrayed. Typically, in American History a President is given a second term when it looks this good. (Mind you I disagree with how it looks but that is what the media directors are presenting.)

That all works in Trump's favor. Then the top candidates may not be as strong to the general public as they are to their individual niche markets. I'm thinking Warren and Sanders. With Joseph Biden speaking to a broader audience, realistically he is old and speaks from a different era.

So, yes, Trump might get a second term. What do you think? What will you do? Is America ever going to be the same again?

For me I'll vote for any Democrat running against him. But when election night comes a year from now and potentially Trump wins don't say you didn't hear it from somewhere.
I absolutely agree. The Democrats simply don't have a strong enough front-runner to unseat Trump, which should be a real point of shame and embarrassment for them. They are facing one of the most unpopular, divisive presidents in modern history, currently facing articles of impeachment while many of his closest campaign officials and early associates are currently serving federal time for breaking the law while running his campaign.

Far from being a bust, the Mueller Report led to 34 convictions of Trump allies and associates, and demonstrated clear instances of him obstructing justice to make the Russian collusion "hoax" go away. He is being sued and investigated in multiple courts and has still refused to turn over his tax returns. Under his administration, one swamp has simply been replaced by another.

Despite all of this and more, the Democrats face an uphill battle unseating him, and will probably lose the general election with a candidate like Warren, who the right has managed to paint as a liar (oh, the irony!) and a socialist in the mold of Lenin himself.

So, for most Americans and just about all their close allies around the world (except the dictatorships), it will be four more years of white-knuckling each and every day, hoping that no major threat to world peace and stability arises.
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Old 11-03-2019, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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I absolutely agree. The Democrats simply don't have a strong enough front-runner to unseat Trump, which should be a real point of shame and embarrassment for them. They are facing one of the most unpopular, divisive presidents in modern history, currently facing articles of impeachment while many of his closest campaign officials and early associates are currently serving federal time for breaking the law while running his campaign.

Far from being a bust, the Mueller Report led to 34 convictions of Trump allies and associates, and demonstrated clear instances of him obstructing justice to make the Russian collusion "hoax" go away. He is being sued and investigated in multiple courts and has still refused to turn over his tax returns. Under his administration, one swamp has simply been replaced by another.

Despite all of this and more, the Democrats face an uphill battle unseating him, and will probably lose the general election with a candidate like Warren, who the right has managed to paint as a liar (oh, the irony!) and a socialist in the mold of Lenin himself.

So, for most Americans and just about all their close allies around the world (except the dictatorships), it will be four more years of white-knuckling each and every day, hoping that no major threat to world peace and stability arises.

Four more years of him. They'll need a temp agency on call to keep his staff positions filled.
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