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You just hit the nail right on the head. Most Trumpers tend to be fairly silent and won't show their hands until election night so just like last election, it's not easy to get a beat on how they will vote. But what I can tell you is they hear these crazy ideas being thrown out by the far left (like the Squad) and it scares the you know what out of them. So much so, there is no way they won't vote for status quo. Trump may not be the most popular President but many will vote for the lesser of two evils and it's those voters that you need to watch out for if you are hoping and praying for a Trump defeat.
This is spot on.
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I'm a Democrat, a Catholic Democrat. But for other Democrats who think this next election is a sure fire bet and America will go back to normal I may be the first telling you this but you may be wrong.
Here is what I know or think I know. All the stats say the wealthy received the biggest tax cut in history. Then all the stats say the Economy is healthy and booming with record unemployment and rising wages. Now, whether I agree with the stats or not is not the question that is how it is portrayed. Typically, in American History a President is given a second term when it looks this good. (Mind you I disagree with how it looks but that is what the media directors are presenting.)
That all works in Trump's favor. Then the top candidates may not be as strong to the general public as they are to their individual niche markets. I'm thinking Warren and Sanders. With Joseph Biden speaking to a broader audience, realistically he is old and speaks from a different era.
So, yes, Trump might get a second term. What do you think? What will you do? Is America ever going to be the same again?
For me I'll vote for any Democrat running against him. But when election night comes a year from now and potentially Trump wins don't say you didn't hear it from somewhere.
The first? People have been saying this for a long time.
But some other factors:
-The economy is shaky, with a recession forecast.
-Trump has unusually high disapproval rates.
-More and more damning evidence keeps surfacing.
-Last time around 2,000,000 more people voted Democrat, and that will only increase.
I think it is very likely Trump will get reelected because of the EC again. I do not see his appeal extending beyond his base however so I don't think he would get reelected by increasing his popularity overall; it would be a victory similar to the one in 2016.
Sure. I'm a independent and feeling politically divided between two parties. Basically the Democrats appear to be adopting a far left agenda that they won't be able to sell to middle America, even when they try to swing to the middle following the convention. Plus DT has the advantage of incumbency, which you can not underestimate. Democrats need to particularly focus on winning back the vote from the Great Lakes states, but it feels like they've abandoned that industrial region.
+1. The debates were frustrating to watch, because most of the candidates appeared to be in a contest for who can out-left whom. The fact is, they lost sight of who they need to convince. Hint: it ain't the Dems; we're going to vote blue either way.
Appealing to the left and trying to avoid the wrath of AOC is a surefire way to alienate Indies and the Repubs who don't like Trump. You know, the ones who have had enough... excitement for one term, but also can't stand the idea of paying back someone else's student loans, AFTER paying back their own loans and saving for their children's education.
You want a winning candidate? Think calm. Think bland. Think vanilla. The bar has already been set so low that all you need to do is not scare the beejeezus out of people with talk of overhauling anything.
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You just hit the nail right on the head. Most Trumpers tend to be fairly silent and won't show their hands until election night so just like last election, it's not easy to get a beat on how they will vote. But what I can tell you is they hear these crazy ideas being thrown out by the far left (like the Squad) and it scares the you know what out of them. So much so, there is no way they won't vote for status quo. Trump may not be the most popular President but many will vote for the lesser of two evils and it's those voters that you need to watch out for if you are hoping and praying for a Trump defeat.
This is spot-on.
The Squad may have some good progressive ideas (some), but forcing those on mainstream America scares most.
It's all about the lesser of 2 evils. If Warren is the Dem nominee and won, the economy would sink shortly after her election, so, no....
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I'm a Democrat, a Catholic Democrat. But for other Democrats who think this next election is a sure fire bet and America will go back to normal I may be the first telling you this but you may be wrong.
Here is what I know or think I know. All the stats say the wealthy received the biggest tax cut in history. Then all the stats say the Economy is healthy and booming with record unemployment and rising wages. Now, whether I agree with the stats or not is not the question that is how it is portrayed. Typically, in American History a President is given a second term when it looks this good. (Mind you I disagree with how it looks but that is what the media directors are presenting.)
That all works in Trump's favor. Then the top candidates may not be as strong to the general public as they are to their individual niche markets. I'm thinking Warren and Sanders. With Joseph Biden speaking to a broader audience, realistically he is old and speaks from a different era.
So, yes, Trump might get a second term. What do you think? What will you do? Is America ever going to be the same again?
For me I'll vote for any Democrat running against him. But when election night comes a year from now and potentially Trump wins don't say you didn't hear it from somewhere.
I'm not surprised by such a prospect, and this isn't the first time this poster has heard it. Far from it. People were tired of the atrocities associated with the Obama administration and did not want more of the same coming from Hillary Rotten Clinton. Tired of weak Republicans, here came a civilian down an escalator in 2015. It's called taking a stand. It has taken Donald Trump to step in and do what many politicians haven't had the balls to do (and, in many cases, failed to do altogether).
Look, you are nowhere near the only person in America who believes that President Trump will be re-elected.
I'm also not a Democrat, but that's not important now. Trump is in it to be a two-term President, and the lowlife Democrats are basically handing it to him. If the opposition were as ticked as they were after the 2016 election results, then you could only imagine their reaction after America soundly rejects them even louder than before.
FirebirdCamaro only likes his own facts.......you can see that from reading almost any of his musings....
Yeah I can see that.
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