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Old 11-13-2019, 03:29 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
All these posts and you still don't know what is going on.

If they cancel the program, which they might, then that is one of the obvious issues they would have.

Trump loyalists.........
I'm not a Trump loyalist so go talk to someone who is. How many times do you have to be told that??????

I don't know what's going on? WTH does that even mean? I don't care what the issues are the DACAs need to be deported as they are here illegally and when they turned 18 1/2 they were responsible for their own status in our country, not their parents anymore.
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Old 11-13-2019, 03:32 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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We've had 40 years of "Education" on illegals. Why do you think we want the wall? Holy crap can anyone be this much in denial??? I live right on the border and have to deal with this crap on a daily basis. It has to stop.

If you actually pay taxes you should be FORCED to give extra to cover the costs of illegals. Maybe then you'll educate yourself to the spread sheet called illegal immigration. Only a real mushroom doesn't see what the costs actually are. You are either smoking shrooms or have skin in the game. No actual American wants this flood gate of tax payer rip off.
oh that's funny --- hide and watch what happens over the course of the next 20 - 25 years if the u.s. government stays on course. You'll be packing your bags and looking for some other place to be, but here.
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Old 11-13-2019, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Florida
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No, you made the statement now you back it up! What is Trump doing to encourage illegal immigration?
The "buy, while we have it in stock" ads are working miracles, and Trumps importation numbers are hitting new records all the time.

It's like "Obama, the AR15 salesman of the year" where he'd open his mouth and people would rush to the gun store to buy their 3rd, or 4th AR15 thinking its their last chance, but it was not the last chance. The last chance never came, and the same is true with the border. When they try to do one thing, the opposite happens.


Donald Trump, the illegal alien importer of the decade, or just "importer in chief".
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Old 11-13-2019, 03:33 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Please be honest. Correcting your misrepresentations is tiresome. I said income tax, and I meant income tax (Federal + State).
Are you telling us that DACA's pay an average of $15,000 per annum in income tax? You need to make $98,000 to incur a $15,000 income tax liability as a single person.

Your claim is preposterous.
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Old 11-13-2019, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Many households have both spouses working and when Trump eliminates one, then the survivor would probably require public assistance.
oh come on. it is as easy to find this out as it was for you to have found what you took stats from and I had to link for you.

How many households - # or % - have dual incomes
how many have the dominant spouse not making enough so that they'd qualify for assistance? (this one will be hard!)

how many DACA's have children, and are married?
apply the same questions/data as above


and then - remember how you've told us they're so much better than American workers, in their tax contributions (which you still haven't shown is only income tax receipts).
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Old 11-13-2019, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Are you telling us that DACA's pay an average of $15,000 per annum in income tax? You need to make $98,000 to incur a $15,000 income tax liability as a single person.

Your claim is preposterous.
as per my post below yous, I've been waiting all afternoon for them to verify that one.
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Old 11-13-2019, 03:37 PM
 
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a link to the claims. they certainly appeared to come from 1 source. if it takes multiple links, so be it.
But please -- no pictures of the source.
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Old 11-13-2019, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Are you telling us that DACA's pay an average of $15,000 per annum in income tax? You need to make $98,000 to incur a $15,000 income tax liability as a single person.

Your claim is preposterous.
I corrected that to $11,250, while average American pays $10,500.

Initially I used an incorrect number of DACAs, which gave me $15K.

The numbers in both cases are Federal + State + Local.
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Old 11-13-2019, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Florida
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as per my post below yous, I've been waiting all afternoon for them to verify that one.
It was clarified around 10AM Florida time, but its nice you hung around all afternoon.
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Old 11-13-2019, 03:41 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Federal + State/Local, compared to average Americans who pay $10,489 each year in federal, state, and local income taxes. It is a fair comparison. So, the DACAs pay more than average Joe.
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Each year, DACA recipients also make major fiscal contributions to the economy. According to the CAP analysis of ACS microdata, DACA recipients and their households pay $5.7 billion in federal taxes and $3.1 billion in state and local taxes annually. In addition to this, DACA recipients boost Social Security and Medicare through payroll taxes. DACA recipients and their households hold a combined $24.1 billion in spending power—or income remaining after paying taxes—each year. (see Methodology)
The $5.7 billion figure in the box is for ALL taxes (other than FICA/Medicare taxes), not just income taxes, and that number appears to be exaggerated.
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