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Old 11-15-2019, 03:33 PM
 
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None of the witnesses have had any evidence of illegal conduct by President Trump.

That's what reasonable people call a clue.
Or it's called building a case. Start with people who can set up the history, then move to those with first hand knowledge.

Next week Sondland who was on the restaurant call and has already filed a correction to his testimony because his memory got jarred by others testimony that there was in fact an expectation of an investigation before aid would be released. Then Vindman who was on the call between Trump and Zelensky. Also Jennifer Williams who was on the July 25th call and Tim Morrison who was on the call.

 
Old 11-15-2019, 03:39 PM
 
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The 2 star's were 2 days ago....zero-nothing..
No lawyer would call their star witness first, they were just setting the stage. The only people calling them "star witnesses" are republicans.
 
Old 11-15-2019, 03:40 PM
 
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True. So far the Republicans have tried the:

1. The whistleblower must testify! defense. No he doesn't. The whistlebower doesn't matter anymore and even if he did, he can't be compelled to testify. That's what whistleblower protections are all about.They can't put that genie back in the bottle and make the bad stuff go away.

2. The But Obama!/But Hillary!/But Biden! defense. None of them are president now and none of this concerns any of their actions, but Trump's.

3. The "There was no quid pro quo because the aid was eventually released!" defense. Just because someone is a bad criminal doesn't make them innocent. After all, Trump is still a husband and a businessman

4. The "Everything is hearsay!" defense. There is firsthand testimony still to come (Gordon Sondland and others,) and even if there wasn't, Mick Mulvaney incriminated Trump went he held the press conference telling America to "Get over it."
 
Old 11-15-2019, 03:40 PM
 
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No lawyer would call their star witness first, they were just setting the stage. The only people calling them "star witnesses" are republicans.

Did the dems deny they were their star witness?
 
Old 11-15-2019, 03:44 PM
 
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WB is hearsay testimony. Why would Republicans want that?
 
Old 11-15-2019, 03:44 PM
 
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I already explained the obvious purpose of her testimony. If you want to pretend to be uninformed (or, in fact, be uninformed) that is entirely up to you. A witness's lack of knowledge concerning a particular act does not necessarily render that witness's testimony pointless if they can proffer information describing the relevant circumstances in which the act occurred.

For (a simplistic) example, a witness might describe the weather conditions in a particular location on a particular day relevant to the occurrence of a car accident irrespective of whether he or she saw the accident itself. Asking that witness "do you have any knowledge as to whether 'Person A' caused the accident?" would be useless in that context, but would not render the testimony irrelevant.
You're missing the key phrase: "any crimes at all." She said no. Under oath.
 
Old 11-15-2019, 03:46 PM
 
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I'm not sure you are watching the same hearing everyone else is.

The Democrats are posting up witnesses who have never met the president, provide biased opinions about the president, and have heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend who, heard it from another he'd been corrupting around. LOL

It amounts to nothing but a gossip fest, really

This is so bad for the Dems, it's comical at this point.
Yeah, it's the "Gossip Girls" impeachment and it's making the Dems look like the clowns they are.
 
Old 11-15-2019, 03:47 PM
 
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Did the dems deny they were their star witness?
Why would they, they weren't asked. The republicans are the ones making a claim, it's up to them to prove it.
 
Old 11-15-2019, 03:49 PM
 
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Next week's witnesses do.
We’ve got him this time! It’s coming you wait!
 
Old 11-15-2019, 03:50 PM
 
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Opening statements from the person that was sitting next to Sondland and overheard the call between him and Trump have been released. Waiting for a link.
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