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Old 11-21-2019, 09:24 AM
 
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Why should a foreign student enroll at a US university, when Europe and Asia have comparable and often superior quality, cheaper prices and less time investment? Typical European undergrad is 3 years instead of 4 and costs less per year/semester. Staying home, for most foreign students, makes way more sense than coming to the US.

Now add in that many of our top universities are increasingly portrayed as hotbeds of activism instead of institutions of learning (mostly correct, if sometimes unfairly), and the attraction is even less.

That isn't Trump's fault. If anything, Trump's election has simply been an excuse for many of our top universities to dial up the campus activism insanity.

 
Old 11-21-2019, 09:39 AM
 
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Why should a foreign student enroll at a US university, when Europe and Asia have comparable and often superior quality, cheaper prices and less time investment? Typical European undergrad is 3 years instead of 4 and costs less per year/semester. Staying home, for most foreign students, makes way more sense than coming to the US
I think one big reason is to learn to speak fluent English. The EU, for example, consists of any countries and many languages, so English is spoken as a 'business language'.

The other big reason is the adventure it provides. Nothing like getting away from your parents in a party-happy college campus. You are only young once.
 
Old 11-21-2019, 09:56 AM
 
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There are some people who look at college as a joke and won't care. Some will see this and say "who cares? College is a waste of time". Some will see it as "we don't want any foreigners here, so whatever".


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Old 11-21-2019, 10:05 AM
 
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The loss is attributable in large part to the decline in new admissions from Saudi Arabia.
 
Old 11-21-2019, 10:51 AM
 
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Yes. MANY, and it is especially true if it is the begging of a trend.

Down here in South Florida about 20% of properties are bought by foreign buyers, and their input is declining, and it is a concern, and it could become a very valid one. Once foreign investors start dumping properties, or stop buying them, it will have a major impact on the real estate market, and MANY American home owners will take a hit.

Keep you childish "you know nothing, I know everything" nonsense to yourself. You are talking to someone who has been actively involved in real estate for some time.
a 5 second google:

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Nationwide, foreign buyers represent just 8 percent of sales. Foreign buyers bought 52,000 homes and condos in Florida in the last year, a 15 percent drop-off from the previous year's 61,300. That accounted for 13 percent of Florida's residential market, more than double the U.S. average of 5 percent
I did find the article you could be alluding to, and it noted this to go along with the decline in foreign investment ...

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But the downside of all the international interest: Home prices keep soaring. According to the Miami Association of Realtors, prices for existing single-family homes and condos have shot up 103 percent and 120 percent, respectively, since 2011.

In the first quarter of 2019, the median sales price of single-family homes in Miami-Dade rose to $350,000, a 3.9 percent increase over the same period last year. The median price for existing condos went up 4.3 percent year over year, from $230,000 to $240,000.
so, they're buying less, but homes aren't worth less. They're just not increasing as quickly.
 
Old 11-21-2019, 12:06 PM
 
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https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/...n-14454289.php

Took one second to find such an attack, lol.

And how many of these did you find? It's the exception that proves the rule. Of course you're going to find a few instances of violence - it's a big city. If you look hard enough, you'll find super models who attack people. That doesn't mean super models are dangerous.

If you have not lived in a big city, maybe trying to argue with a big city boy is a bad idea?

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Old 11-21-2019, 12:07 PM
 
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Thinking that all homeless people are harmless street urchins who need hugs is exactly what I thought some liberal moron would believe.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/invest...564585101.html



See above.


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Old 11-21-2019, 12:19 PM
 
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Sure, there are homeless people begging at every traffic light here too, but what does it have to do with the topic?
 
Old 11-21-2019, 12:24 PM
 
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I think one big reason is to learn to speak fluent English. The EU, for example, consists of any countries and many languages, so English is spoken as a 'business language'.
You can learn fluent English in Europe almost anywhere. I talked to two different Americans in Vienna who were there to do just that - teach English to Austrian kids. In a lot of Europe, English is a required class for more than half your pre-university schooling. No need to come to the US to learn English...the rest of the world speaks it really well.
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The other big reason is the adventure it provides. Nothing like getting away from your parents in a party-happy college campus. You are only young once.
And because too many Americans think like this, many foreign students and their parents who are seeking education will take a pass and stay somewhere that the education part matters more than the party.
 
Old 11-21-2019, 12:40 PM
 
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You can learn fluent English in Europe almost anywhere. I talked to two different Americans in Vienna who were there to do just that - teach English to Austrian kids. In a lot of Europe, English is a required class for more than half your pre-university schooling. No need to come to the US to learn English...the rest of the world speaks it really well.
No, there is no substitute for spending 4+ years in a country learning the native tongue. You do not become fluent by taking few classes from travelling Americans in Vienna.


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And because too many Americans think like this, many foreign students and their parents who are seeking education will take a pass and stay somewhere that the education part matters more than the party.
Parents? I doubt many European students ask parents to pay for their school abroad. It would be an unreasonable request, since it is a big coin, as opposed to no-coin in their home countries where everyone is taxed to pay for it. The foreign students I have known took loans to come here. Going to college is both fun, and work, as it should be.
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