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Old 11-28-2019, 07:21 PM
 
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Substitute the name "Trump" for "Satan" in that diatribe and you've got it right.

What a world we live in.
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Old 11-28-2019, 08:06 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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No one is looking at Trump as a moral leader. It is his ideology that people want. We have our spiritual leaders and Franklin Graham is one of them.
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Old 11-28-2019, 08:09 PM
 
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I’m definitely demonically possessed if that’s what you have to be to calumniate Trump.

Very proud of it too.
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Old 11-28-2019, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Shaker Heights, OH
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This is why I feel if said pastor/preacher is going to be involved in politics like Graham is then he forfeits his right not to have to pay taxes.
Nobody should have to the right not to pay taxes...I never understood why religious leaders are exempt...if they earn money, they should pay taxes like the rest of us...and religious institutions shouldn't be tax exempt either as some of them earn huge money.
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Old 11-28-2019, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Shaker Heights, OH
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The bible is the standard .. not ones own conscience. Man can rationalize the worst atrocities in their own mind.
A book of Fairy Tales is your standard...not mine or any others of us rational folks.
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Old 11-28-2019, 08:32 PM
 
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In effect, they're saying that if you oppose Trump, then you're demon-influenced, if not demon-possessed.


The Bible says "Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves". It's right to pray that Franklin and Metaxis come to see the error of their ways, but Christians should not support them. In effect, they're making judgments only God should make.
Are you trying to stand in, in God's place ? Making that judgement !!!

God wasn't born in the USA and he doesn't get to vote here either !!!
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Old 11-28-2019, 11:14 PM
 
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God does see the shallowness of what is happening. Many don't believe in Jesus and still celebrate it . It is putting man's tradition before God's.. I thank God for his goodness. Everything he put in place for us. The trees, the food, the prosperity here. We are so fortunate. We have never had any war here stateside.



Those that grow spoiled don't even know how blessed this country is .. wealth is not evil.. it is the love of money or power that is evil..



If there was no wealth here and freedom to create , we would be a third world country. God made man in his image, and God is the great creator. Our freedom to work hard and enjoy the fruits of our labor is good.



Communism does not work.. there is no freedom .. God knows from beginning to end. He wrote the book.
I think its a bit worse than that...its blasphemy technically, they are 'taking advantage' of a religious celebration, for their own reasons and changing it to be what they want it to be. The church is guilty of allowing this to go on, they need to be telling their congregation not to have anything to do with all the big sales or retail hype involved with christmas today, its that serious imo.


The church should also be calling out these big retail stores publicly and tell them to stop bastardizing the christmas holiday, maybe a stern public statement would be a wake up call to some christians today, these stores could not care less about the reason for the season, they are interested in making money/greed, pure and simple, its their only priority this time of year.They are doing the exact same thing the money changers did in Jesus time, and he became angry and threw them out physically because of it.
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Old 11-29-2019, 03:46 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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In effect, they're saying that if you oppose Trump, then you're demon-influenced, if not demon-possessed.


The Bible says "Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves". It's right to pray that Franklin and Metaxis come to see the error of their ways, but Christians should not support them. In effect, they're making judgments only God should make.

Like abortion loving Hillary Clinton wasn't a false profit, who would do and say anything to get power.
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Old 11-29-2019, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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Trumps faithful flock are blind to be sure.
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Old 11-29-2019, 06:20 AM
 
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A book of Fairy Tales is your standard...not mine or any others of us rational folks.
Nor for the country either. The U.S. is not a theocracy.
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