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Old 12-14-2019, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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The plantation mansion is the backdrop, not the shacks or the out house or stables or whatever else one may shoehorn in.
The mansion where Commandant Rudolf Hoess formerly lived at Auschwitz is also big and beautiful. I doubt any reasonable person would want to have that place as a wedding backdrop.
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Old 12-14-2019, 11:31 AM
 
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When we get into a contest of who suffered more then we all have to stand in line behind the Indian.
There is no contest and I ain’t standing behind ANYBODY....ever.

YOU stand stand behind the Indian if that’s how you roll.
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Old 12-14-2019, 11:33 AM
 
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The mansion where Commandant Rudolf Hoess formerly lived at Auschwitz is also big and beautiful. I doubt any reasonable person would want to have that place as a wedding backdrop.
Well those are two different things in different times and places. Slavery wasn't good enough to rain on other's picnic let's shoehorn in Nazi Germany, yay.
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Old 12-14-2019, 11:35 AM
 
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The plantation mansion is the backdrop, not the shacks or the out house or stables or whatever else one may shoehorn in.
No it’s not. The backdrop is what happened at those plantations.

You folks with these Rhett Butler and Scarlett O’Hara romanticisms do everything you can not to see that.

But sober people can’t see anything else.
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Old 12-14-2019, 11:37 AM
 
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Well those are two different things in different times and places. Slavery wasn't good enough to rain on other's picnic let's shoehorn in Nazi Germany, yay.
Slavery rained on the picnic of the enslaved.

The end of slavery is currently raining on someone else’s parade here that shall go unnamed.
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Old 12-14-2019, 11:53 AM
 
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Slavery rained on the picnic of the enslaved.

The end of slavery is currently raining on someone else’s parade here that shall go unnamed.
Slavery is long gone and some people just want to try to still use it to badger others for their own purposes. If it's not plantation mansion wedding photos it's another thing.
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Old 12-14-2019, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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I'm assuming Chinese Americans don't have an version to ridding on trains after what their ancestors went through building our railways out west.
Don't throw our community into this as a stalking horse. Not comparable to the African American experience.
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Old 12-14-2019, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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The plantation mansion is the backdrop, not the shacks or the out house or stables or whatever else one may shoehorn in.
Still trying to whitewash history (appropriate term)?
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Old 12-14-2019, 12:32 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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The mansion where Commandant Rudolf Hoess formerly lived at Auschwitz is also big and beautiful. I doubt any reasonable person would want to have that place as a wedding backdrop.
You liberal snowflakes are ridiculous. The more accurate analogy would be, are you offended by visiting the Palace of Versailles because its a symbol of King Louis's oppression and because the royal family wasn't very nice to their servants???? Or are you offended by visiting Mayan Pyramids in Mexico because human sacrificies occurred there?

Slavery was part of human history and visiting a plantation don't mean that you're celebrating it. I have many plantations in my area, and they keep the charm from the bygone days. Not even all black people here are offended by plantations!!! They recognize that some of the biggest attractions in this area are plantations.
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Old 12-14-2019, 12:39 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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You think that’s the same thing?

So lemme get this straight...the Chinese, who came here voluntarily, and had a less than favorable experience while building the railroads, and it was totally comparable to what was going on at plantations all across the South? The Chinese were beaten, tortured, had their womenfolk routinely raped, their children and family members sold away, their language and culture stolen, and the Christian religion imposed on them? Really now? That’s what happened to the Chinese?

Ok...gimme the link to back that up.
You see to be so constantly full of anger and anti-American resentment. Nobody says slavery was right but the plantations are part of our rich shared history here in the South and there is a lot of historical value to them. Slavery was only one aspect of antebellum plantation life. You can visit a large historic mansion in Malibu or Long Island and not only or mainly just focus on the servants who worked there. If you visit Buckingham Palace in London is 90% of the focus on the servant class serving the British royal family? If you visit a German castle is 90% of the attention focused on the serfs and peasants who lived there?


I understand that slavery was a painful part of history, but if that wasn't part of your history, you wouldn't be living here in the greatest nation in the world. You would be in Africa, living in a tin shack and digging a hole in the ground to go to the bathroom (and probably trying to come to America illegally).
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