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"This is not about politics. This is about the rule of law. Republicans and Democrats alike should defend it above all else.
In my nearly 96 years, I have seen our country rise above extraordinary challenges — the Great Depression, World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, segregation, assassinations, the resignation of a president and 9/11, to name just a few.
I continue to believe in and pray for the ability of all Americans to overcome our differences and pursue the common good. Order protects liberty, and liberty protects order."
William Webster, a former federal judge, was director of the F.B.I. from 1978 to 1987, and director of the C.I.A. from 1987 to 1991.
"The rule of law is the bedrock of American democracy, the principle that protects every American from the abuse of monarchs, despots and tyrants. Every American should demand that our leaders put the rule of law above politics."
Is this not still true today?!? Seems we are demanding something else entirely lately. To many of us anyway...
How can it not be about politics, after all it's what started all of this
I do understand your point, and I'm in favor of Term Limits as Ronald Reagan said:
BOTH POLITICIANS AND DIAPERS NEED TO BE CHANGED OFTEN AND FOR THE SAME REASON !
They should also have to pass an intelligence test, a common sense test and an understanding the constitution test, as well
How can it not be about politics, after all it's what started all of this
I do understand your point, and I'm in favor of Term Limits as Ronald Reagan said:
BOTH POLITICIANS AND DIAPERS NEED TO BE CHANGED OFTEN AND FOR THE SAME REASON !
They should also have to pass an intelligence test, a common sense test and an understanding the constitution test, as well
Should we throw in disclosure of their tax returns while we're at it?
Love the Reagan quote! Hadn't heard that one before. A keeper. Thanks!
Thats too vague a statement...what do you do when laws are unconstitutional?
Is it appropriate for American citizens to obey and comply with these laws?
Besides that, this country became a free and separate nation due to people disobeying laws and the breakdown of the monarchs authority over the colonies!
How can it not be about politics, after all it's what started all of this
Did you read the article? I think the point is that while politics will always be an integral part of how America goes forward, we must also respect and protect the rule of law or there will be no moving forward...
"Over my nine-plus years as F.B.I. director, I reported to four honorable attorneys general. Each clearly understood the importance of the rule of law in our democracy and the critical role the F.B.I. plays in the enforcement of our laws. They fought to protect both, knowing how important it was that our F.B.I. remain independent of political influence of any kind."
Thats too vague a statement...what do you do when laws are unconstitutional?
Is it appropriate for American citizens to obey and comply with these laws?
Besides that, this country became a free and separate nation due to people disobeying laws and the breakdown of the monarchs authority over the colonies!
Say what? Is this some sort of argument AGAINST the rule of law? Are we not understanding what our founding fathers put into the constitution in order to foster a society guided by the rule of law? Always confuses me to think someone can point at bad laws or laws overthrown as some sort of argument the rule of law should not nevertheless prevail. Something like the argument that all cops are bad just because some are bad.
Sorry! That's some myopic and badly flawed logic if you ask me...
That would suggest that immigrants (legal or illegal) are problem #1 for America, and that is simply not the case even if some Americans seem to lean in that sort of xenophobic direction, but who can argue against improvement -- and enforcement -- of any laws? Maybe it's the American employers we need to be holding more accountable instead of demonizing forners...
Is this not still true today?!? Seems we are demanding something else entirely lately. To many of us anyway...
No, now the cancel culture Left prefers "guilty by virtue of accusation and the defendant must prove their innocence, which is logically impossible, thus the accusation stands, now hand down and carry out sentence, tyvm."
Too many examples to list, but the bottom line is, the actual rule of law gets discarded entirely when the Left wants a scalp. It is replaced by the absurd notion of the accused being required to "exonerate" themselves under impossible standards, or otherwise have their lives/families/careers destroyed.
Take for example, this impeachment.
The first charge - abuse of power - is a catch all placeholder for "stuff we can't prove but makes us feel icky all the same." It's apparently like pornography and evil: hard to define specifically, but you know it when you see it. Or it's the "we see a ton of smoke, so we'll prosecute on the fire we figure is burning somewhere" theory.
The second charge - obstruction of Congress - was invented literally just for this impeachment, as there was no such crime in existence prior to them needing it for this process. And that charge that they level at the accused is based on them NOT FOLLOWING THE RULE OF LAW AS IT EXISTS. Got that? They ignore the rule of law and in doing so, create a scenario to further ignore the rule of law by accusing the defendant of ignoring the rule of law?
And in media, among the House Democrats and the anti-Trump intelligentsia, the burden of proof is on Trump to "exonerate" himself, which is absolutely opposite to the established legal basis and rule of law of this country.
So yeah, too many of you - since I am not part of that particular "us" that demands flipping the rule of law and the presumption of innocence on its head in order to satisfy political vengeance - do want something else entirely. You want guilt presumed and innocence proven.
To paraphrase the Speaker of the House, we have to drain the swamp to see who's in it. What we're seeing now is the creatures that lurk within the swamp scrambling to remain hidden as the waters recede. It was always going to be ugly.
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