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"This is not about politics. This is about the rule of law. Republicans and Democrats alike should defend it above all else.
In my nearly 96 years, I have seen our country rise above extraordinary challenges — the Great Depression, World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, segregation, assassinations, the resignation of a president and 9/11, to name just a few.
I continue to believe in and pray for the ability of all Americans to overcome our differences and pursue the common good. Order protects liberty, and liberty protects order."
William Webster, a former federal judge, was director of the F.B.I. from 1978 to 1987, and director of the C.I.A. from 1987 to 1991.
"The rule of law is the bedrock of American democracy, the principle that protects every American from the abuse of monarchs, despots and tyrants. Every American should demand that our leaders put the rule of law above politics."
Is this not still true today?!? Seems we are demanding something else entirely lately. To many of us anyway...
"The independence of both the F.B.I. and its director is critical and should be fiercely protected by each branch of government."
You gave a link that explicitly states that obstruction of Congress is a violation of federal law and even cites the US Code section which btw, dates back decades, long before Trump was in office.
Uh huh...and now go read the case law concerning Exectuive Privilege as it relates to contempt of Congress or obstruction of justice, neither of which is the second charge.
US v Nixon
Judicial Watch, Inc. v. Department of Justice.
Loving v. Department of Defense
House Committee on the Judiciary v. Miers
Yellin v United States
etc
The Judiciary is the one that gives teeth to the subpoena power of the Congress vs the Executive. It's in all the case law regarding Congressional subpoenas. Neither Schiff nor Nadler ever pursued the judicial branch remedies to Trump's refusals of their subpoenas, and the law is quite clear on how that goes. Had they invoked that remedy, they'd have probably puled it off and got what they wanted in the subpoenas, but it wouldn't have happened as fast as they wanted this done, what with the Democrat primaries so close at hand.
And oh btw, there still is no crime called "obstruction of Congress." There is contempt of Congress, obstruction of justice and various others with those words, but no "obstruction of Congress."
My first question as defense attorney on the charge of obstruction of Congress: was the denial of the subpoena ever referred to the US Attorney or any Court for enforcement?
You do know you have been proven wrong, numerous times, don't you? You can repeat this over and over again, till the cows and Devin Nunes come home, and it still won't make it true.
That would suggest that immigrants (legal or illegal) are problem #1 for America, and that is simply not the case even if some Americans seem to lean in that sort of xenophobic direction, but who can argue against improvement -- and enforcement -- of any laws? Maybe it's the American employers we need to be holding more accountable instead of demonizing forners...
I see, the burger king approach to law. Stick with the ones you like.
Immigration is far higher up the scale than the fake witch hunt you are referring.
Uh huh...and now go read the case law concerning Exectuive Privilege as it relates to contempt of Congress or obstruction of justice, neither of which is the second charge.
US v Nixon
Judicial Watch, Inc. v. Department of Justice.
Loving v. Department of Defense
House Committee on the Judiciary v. Miers
Yellin v United States
etc
The Judiciary is the one that gives teeth to the subpoena power of the Congress vs the Executive. It's in all the case law regarding Congressional subpoenas. Neither Schiff nor Nadler ever pursued the judicial branch remedies to Trump's refusals of their subpoenas, and the law is quite clear on how that goes. Had they invoked that remedy, they'd have probably puled it off and got what they wanted in the subpoenas, but it wouldn't have happened as fast as they wanted this done, what with the Democrat primaries so close at hand.
And oh btw, there still is no crime called "obstruction of Congress." There is contempt of Congress, obstruction of justice and various others with those words, but no "obstruction of Congress."
My first question as defense attorney on the charge of obstruction of Congress: was the denial of the subpoena ever referred to the US Attorney or any Court for enforcement?
Case closed.
That's not how it works. if he had allowed any testimony, handed over any documents while withholding ones that he claimed the privilege on, maybe. But he's not a king and not everything he says and does is above the law. So no, a co-equal branch of government doesn't have to defer the another branch, and bring in the third branch to make a spoiled brat behave.
And Congress doesn't need to play by the rules Trump wants to use, he's not in control of them.
That's not how it works. if he had allowed any testimony, handed over any documents while withholding ones that he claimed the privilege on, maybe. But he's not a king and not everything he says and does is above the law. So no, a co-equal branch of government doesn't have to defer the another branch, and bring in the third branch to make a spoiled brat behave.
And Congress doesn't need to play by the rules Trump wants to use, he's not in control of them.
And the judiciary settles those disputes between Legislative and Executive, not Legislative acting on their own.
You do know you have been proven wrong, numerous times, don't you? You can repeat this over and over again, till the cows and Devin Nunes come home, and it still won't make it true.
Then please tell us the specific evidence for a specific crime.
Then please tell us the specific evidence for a specific crime.
Just read any of the numerous posts and threads you have either started or commented upon and it will be illustrated and articulated in a variety of ways by many posters, myself included. Or, you could read about it in any mainstream newspaper as myriad real journalists have brought the facts and evidence clearly and concisely to those desiring honesty and integrity in their news.
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