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Old 12-27-2019, 08:11 PM
 
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Maybe not surprising, but still depressing: Women continue to be harassed online, even when mayor. And the insults tend often to be irrelevant to the job. Like "fat."


‘Worthless. Gutless. Loser.’ Online attacks escalate when the mayor is a woman.
By Addel Hasasn

Mayor Satya Rhodes-Conway’s inbox makes abundantly clear how personally venomous local politics has become. “‘Fat,’ ‘sick,’ ‘worthless,’ ‘gutless,’ ‘loser,’ ” she said, reciting some of the insults that have been leveled at her since becoming mayor of Madison, Wisconsin, in April...

And one factor — gender — stood out above all others as a predictor of whether a mayor would be targeted. Using a statistical analysis that took into account factors like time in office, the researchers concluded that female mayors were more than twice as likely as their male counterparts to experience psychological abuse and almost three times as likely to experience physical violence.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/23/u...dia-abuse.html

https://www.chicagotribune.com/natio...peq-story.html
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Old 12-27-2019, 09:30 PM
 
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Maybe not surprising, but still depressing: Women continue to be harassed online, even when mayor. And the insults tend often to be irrelevant to the job. Like "fat."


‘Worthless. Gutless. Loser.’ Online attacks escalate when the mayor is a woman.
By Addel Hasasn

Mayor Satya Rhodes-Conway’s inbox makes abundantly clear how personally venomous local politics has become. “‘Fat,’ ‘sick,’ ‘worthless,’ ‘gutless,’ ‘loser,’ ” she said, reciting some of the insults that have been leveled at her since becoming mayor of Madison, Wisconsin, in April...

And one factor — gender — stood out above all others as a predictor of whether a mayor would be targeted. Using a statistical analysis that took into account factors like time in office, the researchers concluded that female mayors were more than twice as likely as their male counterparts to experience psychological abuse and almost three times as likely to experience physical violence.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/23/u...dia-abuse.html

https://www.chicagotribune.com/natio...peq-story.html
Men encounter much more of that, and much harsher and more threatening attacks then women do. I've had someone post on a different forum that he'd like to cut my head off, talk about fighting me, threaten in other ways. Men encounter these sorts of threats much more often than women. Yet, the idea that I would whine about it or publicly posture about it is unthinkable.

Apparently, no one has cared enough about this woman or women like her to say this:

1. You'll never be able to force other people to say the things you want them to say or not say the things you don't want to say.

2. The things they say only hurt if they're true. If they are true, take responsibility for yourself and change.

3. Life is hard. One part of those hardships is sometimes having your feelings hurt. Deal with it. Get stronger, rather than wallowing in this culture that increasingly celebrates weakness and grievance. Put on your big girl pants.
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Old 12-27-2019, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Various
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Yet, the idea that I would whine about it or publicly posture about it is unthinkable.
Yes, this is the flaw of the "study", which is really just a survey that hasn't managed self selection bias.

What they have found is a high probability that female mayors are more likely to respond to this survey.
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Old 12-27-2019, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Welcome to politics lady. I don't condone such attacks but they are take compared to what I've heard numerous male politicians called. If your first inclination is to cry sexism, maybe you should stay out of the proverbial kitchen.
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Old 12-27-2019, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Maybe not surprising, but still depressing: Women continue to be harassed online, even when mayor. And the insults tend often to be irrelevant to the job. Like "fat."


‘Worthless. Gutless. Loser.’ Online attacks escalate when the mayor is a woman.
By Addel Hasasn

Mayor Satya Rhodes-Conway’s inbox makes abundantly clear how personally venomous local politics has become. “‘Fat,’ ‘sick,’ ‘worthless,’ ‘gutless,’ ‘loser,’ ” she said, reciting some of the insults that have been leveled at her since becoming mayor of Madison, Wisconsin, in April...

And one factor — gender — stood out above all others as a predictor of whether a mayor would be targeted. Using a statistical analysis that took into account factors like time in office, the researchers concluded that female mayors were more than twice as likely as their male counterparts to experience psychological abuse and almost three times as likely to experience physical violence.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/23/u...dia-abuse.html

https://www.chicagotribune.com/natio...peq-story.html
Mayor Conway seems like a good mayor, because Madison seems like a very well-run city with a rock-bottom crime rate and it's one of the best cities in the country.

I could care less if a person running for office is male or female. But in many elections it seems as though a large percentage of liberals will vote based on gender, ethnicity or orientation. Rather than look at quality they vote based on a segments.

Omaha has an excellent Republican Female mayor Jean Stothert who has done an excellent job in Omaha. It is an incredibly visionary city. The mayor of Omaha is a brilliant person and an excellent communicator.

There are lots of Democratic female mayors who were elected though just because they are female and not based on their vision, policy and how they manage the city.

The female mayors of St. Louis, Washingto DC and the last one in Baltimore seemed to have been elected just because on their gender and not policy.

The last mayor of Salt Lake City Jackie Biskupski is widely known to have been a complete failure with skyrocketing crime and homelessness when she was mayor. I saw a video of her talking about homelessness and crime which skyrocketed under her watch and she couldn't articulate anything.

With Jackie Biskupski in Salt Lake it was as if the Democrats who are wide majority in Salt Lake City proper decided it would be cool just elect her based on her being in a same-sex relationship and because she was a female.

I would vote for the best person running and could care less about their orientation or gender but in many Democratic cities especially they will vote based on gender and many other issues that have nothing to do with operating a good city.
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Old 12-27-2019, 11:12 PM
 
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I wouldn't apply those words to Mayor Conway, because Madison seems like a very well-run city with a rock-bottom crime rate and it's one of the best cities in the country.

I could care less if a person running for office is male or female. But in many elections it seems as though a large percentage of liberals will vote based on gender, ethnicity or orientation. Rather than look at quality they vote based on a segments.

Omaha has an excellent Republican Female mayor Jean Stothert who has done an excellent job in Omaha. It is an incredibly visionary city. The mayor of Omaha is a brilliant person and an excellent communicator.

There are lots of Democratic female mayors who were elected though just because they are female and not based on their vision, policy and how they manage the city.

The female mayors of St. Louis, Washingto DC and the last one in Baltimore seemed to have been elected just because on their gender and not policy.

The last mayor of Salt Lake City Jackie Biskupski is widely known to have been a complete failure with skyrocketing crime and homelessness when she was mayor. I saw a video of her talking about homelessness and crime which skyrocketed under her watch and she couldn't articulate anything.

With Jackie Biskupski in Salt Lake it was as if the Democrats who are wide majority in Salt Lake City proper decided it would be cool just elect her based on her being in a same-sex relationship and because she was a female.

I would vote for the best person running and could care less about their orientation or gender but in many Democratic cities especially they will vote based on gender and many other issues that have nothing to do with operating a good city.
Madison, WI? Surely you jest. I live up here. It's an island of misfit toys, freak circus..."33 square miles surrounded by reality." Would you like me to start posting the news stories and video clips of local government?
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Old 12-27-2019, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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Welcome to politics lady. I don't condone such attacks but they are take compared to what I've heard numerous male politicians called. If your first inclination is to cry sexism, maybe you should stay out of the proverbial kitchen.
And go back into the real one.

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Mayor Conway seems like a good mayor, because Madison seems like a very well-run city with a rock-bottom crime rate and it's one of the best cities in the country.
I don't know if she's a great mayor or a terrible mayor, but it's not like she set any of that in motion. Madison has been that way for as long as anyone can remember. All she has to do is mind the system others designed and built over the previous decades.
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Old 12-27-2019, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Madison, WI? Surely you jest. I live up here. It's an island of misfit toys, freak circus..."33 square miles surrounded by reality." Would you like me to start posting the news stories and video clips of local government?
Like Democratic Boulder in Colorado, Madison is a very expensive city with landlords who can be selective to whom they rent because of the extremely low vacancy rates.

From what I have read, Madison housing prices are extremely expensive even compared to Chicago and Minneapolis. They vote Democratic in Madison but they are very expensive intentionally which keeps rampant gang culture and baby-factories who have their yearly baby with a new parolee from setting up shop in their exclusive, burgoise city.

They are extremely Democratic because they are socially liberal in Madison but there is a huge premium to pay to live in both and the only way for a person to live in either without lots of resources is to know a person who has a rental for a deal or be approved for a very limited and select number of housing vouchers but with the very, very low vacancy rates I doubt many landlords would be advertising for accepting housing vouchers.
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Old 12-27-2019, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Maybe not surprising, but still depressing: Women continue to be harassed online, even when mayor. And the insults tend often to be irrelevant to the job. Like "fat."


‘Worthless. Gutless. Loser.’ Online attacks escalate when the mayor is a woman.
By Addel Hasasn

Mayor Satya Rhodes-Conway’s inbox makes abundantly clear how personally venomous local politics has become. “‘Fat,’ ‘sick,’ ‘worthless,’ ‘gutless,’ ‘loser,’ ” she said, reciting some of the insults that have been leveled at her since becoming mayor of Madison, Wisconsin, in April...

And one factor — gender — stood out above all others as a predictor of whether a mayor would be targeted. Using a statistical analysis that took into account factors like time in office, the researchers concluded that female mayors were more than twice as likely as their male counterparts to experience psychological abuse and almost three times as likely to experience physical violence.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/23/u...dia-abuse.html

https://www.chicagotribune.com/natio...peq-story.html
You can add whiny to "fat, sick worthless, gutless loser". Trump is called all those things and worse. If you can't stand the heat...
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Old 12-28-2019, 02:28 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Maybe not surprising, but still depressing: Women continue to be harassed online, even when mayor. And the insults tend often to be irrelevant to the job. Like "fat."


‘Worthless. Gutless. Loser.’ Online attacks escalate when the mayor is a woman.
By Addel Hasasn

Mayor Satya Rhodes-Conway’s inbox makes abundantly clear how personally venomous local politics has become. “‘Fat,’ ‘sick,’ ‘worthless,’ ‘gutless,’ ‘loser,’ ” she said, reciting some of the insults that have been leveled at her since becoming mayor of Madison, Wisconsin, in April...

And one factor — gender — stood out above all others as a predictor of whether a mayor would be targeted. Using a statistical analysis that took into account factors like time in office, the researchers concluded that female mayors were more than twice as likely as their male counterparts to experience psychological abuse and almost three times as likely to experience physical violence.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/23/u...dia-abuse.html

https://www.chicagotribune.com/natio...peq-story.html
Good to know that you'd never do stuff like this, right?
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