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Old 01-07-2020, 02:07 PM
 
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They don't "hate us".... you don't do much travel, do you? The average European has no beef with the average American. Hell, the average person in any country is rarely going to express any animosity toward any random person of another country who isn't purposely antagonizing other people.


And if some random Eurotrash makes rude comments to you as an American, just understand that's a reflection on their poor upbringing and inferiority complex.
But not if they are muslims/iranians.

How convenient of you . European = poor upbringing and inferiority, Iran/Muslims = terrorists.
Have you travelled to Iran or the islamic countries and seen it for yourself??

Since the media chooses to only show "Death to Israel" , it must be true.
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Old 01-07-2020, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Somewhere between the Americas and Western Europe
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But not if they are muslims/iranians.

How convenient of you . European = poor upbringing and inferiority, Iran/Muslims = terrorists.
Have you travelled to Iran or the islamic countries and seen it for yourself??

Since the media chooses to only show "Death to Israel" , it must be true.

What are you blabbing on about? I didn't mention Iran or Muslims at all. Besides, it's not exactly like Iranians have liked the US for a few decades now. At least not the ones left in Iran. You'll note how much the average American needs to care about Iran and its opinion of the US by the amount of Iranians that have moved TO the USA vs. Americans that move TO Iran in the past decades.


Otherwise "Muslims" are a mixed neurotic bag in terms of their opinion of Americans. Half of America's problem is caused by the need to get in bed with shady ass dictators in the Middle East because of the oil beneath the sands that fuel the world economy.

Other than that, the Middle East is pretty useless and contributes nothing of value to humanity's advancement.


"Muslims" forget that it was the US who put their treasure and soldier's on the line to protect the Saudis, to help the Muslims in Kosovo, to help Kuwait.... etc. etc. The damned Saudis INVITED the US to base in their country as a buffer against Saddam, and those bastards from that country STILL flew planes into New York.


The US should withdraw from the region entirely. Let it burn in its own sectarian filth. Buy oil from Russia and Venezuela. Much less problematic.
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Old 01-07-2020, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Somewhere between the Americas and Western Europe
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Europe isn’t the only place to travel to.

Hence why I said "Hell, the average person in any country is rarely going to express any animosity toward any random person of another country who isn't purposely antagonizing other people."


Americans in South America, Mexico, Europe, Asia, India.... hell most of Africa and most of the Middle East are not going to experience inter-personal violence or hatred on account of simply being "American."


The governments of large super powers otherwise can't be terribly concerned about their reputation among the backwards countries and cultures of the world.

Lions are not generally concerned about the opinions of sheep.
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Old 01-07-2020, 04:40 PM
 
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There are better ones. People don't want to work the better ones. What "better jobs" do you think SHOULD exist or WOULD exist but for Trump's mismanagement.

If you have a beef with high paying jobs being outsourced, your beef is with neoliberal economic policy. Which is currently mainstream Democratic (and Republican). Trump is the actually the only one trying to dismantle that system. Bernie Sanders used to as well.








Americans have a conscious choice in the career paths and degrees they choose. I'm not sure what your solution is? Subsidizing majors for which there is little market?

Don't choose an art history major or English lit major if you don't come from a privileged background.

First Trump promised to bring back high paying blue collar jobs..... I am still waiting. We are talking about TRUMP and MAGA, not Obama or W who didnt promise any such thing. They are unappologetic globalists and believe as you do that people should just get ever more degrees and he with most degrees wins.... somehow. All Trump did was bankrupt some of his rural supporters and boost inflation a bit on rising price of Chinese goods. Manufacturing jobs for blue collar have yet to reappear.


The effort at globalization started with REPUBLICAN president Richard Nixon. Highly supported by Ronald RayGun. Then Clinton and the Bushes. YOu must not read your ballot if you thought all those folk were Democrat. Course if you think Trump is a fiscally conservative Republican, well, guess you are just confused.


Again playing the "he who dies with the most degrees wins" is pretty illogical. Oh a few will win in such a system, but its not the way to run a society. Blame the poor is just rich man apologist speak for I got mine, screw everybody else.
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Old 01-07-2020, 07:48 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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He apparently feels the need to prove he can be as big a jackass as the Taliban by threatening to bomb cultural sites in Iran.

Was there ever any doubt?
I'm sorry but if Iran targets US citizens (regardless of if they are military personnel). then the gloves come off and we hit them where it hurts the most.

What many fail to understand is that some cultures only understand blunt force. That's why we fail in that region. Winning hearts and minds is an impossibility.

It is a culture that views compassion and restraint as weakness and is to be exploited. Why else would they bomb funerals? Cut off the heads of helpless captives? Use children and mentally disabled people as suicide bombers? Target school children?

On our part we have a nose that can't stay out of everyone else's business and both major parties are as guilty as sin. We hear catch phrases like "what if we didn't get involved when Hitler was the bad guy?"

Syria is no Germany and Assad is no Hitler, neither was Libya or Yemen or Iraq or Afghanistan. If interference was so required the UN would have passed a resolution and every member would have been involved.

The question begs. Why is it the job of the USA to always play world cop?
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Old 01-08-2020, 06:23 AM
 
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https://mattstoller.substack.com/p/t...-of-industrial

His deficit spending and trade tariffs are dismantling neo-liberal financial policy.

He's pushing a disengagement with China which is used as a cheap labor supply to artifically increase capital gains and price out smaller businesses:

https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-e...e-after-donald

His foriegn policy has hurt US power in the middle east which is a great thing for people like me who want to end US imperialism.

Actually the criticism from democrats on Trump's Iran policy come from right-wing talking points that Trump is strategically damaging the United States (which is a good thing and hurts corporate power domestically).

https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/s...27523931435008

His trade policy has promoted democracy for the first time after Bush, Obama, Clinton, and Reagan worked over time to destroy it ^^^^^^^^^.

Yes, supporting global trade over domestic law disregards democratic effectiveness.

He has lowered the corporate tax rate which means the federal government is less reliant on corporate investment for funding, increasing the economic power of small scale consumers/producers. He has cut back ineffective welfare spending.

I'm not a supporter of Trump, I'm well to the left of anyone here, but if it is between Trump and Biden I'll vote Trump or stay at home (probably the latter).

PS. It's surprising that all attacks on Trump from the democrats here have been far right (more Russian aggression, more imperialism, more globalism, etc.)
Gee another opinion article from a biased person. Who'da thnk?


"OpenLeft was a political blog founded July 9, 2007 by Matt Stoller, Chris Bowers, originally of MyDD, and Mike Lux, a former official in the White House under President Bill Clinton[ Covering political and social issues from a progressive standpoint,"


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenLeft
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Old 01-08-2020, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Gee another opinion article from a biased person. Who'da thnk?


"OpenLeft was a political blog founded July 9, 2007 by Matt Stoller, Chris Bowers, originally of MyDD, and Mike Lux, a former official in the White House under President Bill Clinton[ Covering political and social issues from a progressive standpoint,"


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenLeft
Yup, I don't agree with Stoller much but he knows what he is talking about and has a clear moral compass.
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Old 01-09-2020, 04:44 AM
 
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Yup, I don't agree with Stoller much but he knows what he is talking about and has a clear moral compass.
" and has a clear moral compass" I haven't heard a single "progressive" that has ANY morals.
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Old 01-09-2020, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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That's will be a great campaign slogan, "we're not too bad".
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Old 01-09-2020, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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That's will be a great campaign slogan, "we're not too bad".
Points for honesty at least.
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