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So you are telling us IDF were shooting live rounds & aiming for the legs at combatants armed with RPG and AK47?
Not a bunch of protesters/rioters armed with rocks and whatever projectiles they can get their hands on.....LIKE EVERY RIOTER OR PROTESTER ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD?
Rocks, Molotov cocktails, launching incendiary balloons, grenades, knives, etc. Other protesters around the world don't do this in this manner. Their leaders don't give them assault weapons out of fear of them turning around and shooting at their leaders. As stated earlier, they have a extremely higher injury rate than they do a death rate. You can go to numerous websites and nearly all of those shot were below the knee. Those hit with a body mass hit, usually got it due changing their movements while the projectile was already in motion. As 99+% of these shootings are in the Gaza Strip, there exists a 500 meter (yard) no man's zone this is a buffer. Those who've been shot, were in the no man's zone
Depending on the situation it could be live rounds, rubber rounds or sponge rounds. It depends on the situation.
I dont know where you took your CCW class, but they don't typically teach you to tap anyone anywhere. What they do teach you basic firearm safety and that having a CCW licence does NOT make one a police officer.
The assumption is you are in the imminent danger that is the only justification to draw the weapon, and if drawn, how the firing is supposed to go.
Where did I say that was the entire ladder of force?
When I took my required classroom training, they followed the same basic rule of "if it leaves the holster, it is only because you have legit, imminent fear of death coming your way, and to end that threat, you shoot a minimum of three shots, starting at waist level of CoM." IF IF IF IF it leaves the holster, it is ONLY BECAUSE....
Nobody ever teaches warning shots or shooting at extremities. Everyone teaches that the gun coming up is your absolute last resort, but if you get there, you double/triple tap minimum, center of mass, period.
I might suggest that police be equipped with a powerful electromagnet, such as are found in MRI machines. A hand-held version with a trigger could be designed. In a 'suicide-by-cop' situation, the electromagnet could be aimed at the knife-wielder, and the knife popped right out of his hand.
No more suicide by cop, which has been a growing problem.
I might suggest that police be equipped with a powerful electromagnet, such as are found in MRI machines. A hand-held version with a trigger could be designed. In a 'suicide-by-cop' situation, the electromagnet could be aimed at the knife-wielder, and the knife popped right out of his hand.
No more suicide by cop, which has been a growing problem.
Wouldn't that affect the plate in your head?
I suggest, instead of suggesting the police do this or that, we start suggesting the criminals get jobs and behaving instead of committing crimes!
I dont know where you took your CCW class, but they don't typically teach you to tap anyone anywhere. What they do teach you basic firearm safety and that having a CCW licence does NOT make one a police officer.
We don't agree with you much, but on this you are correct. Training is to stop or neutralize the other person and not to kill them.
I read that the pistols used in Olympic shooting contests can shoot a quarter or even a dime at about 100 feet. Why not supply police with one of these pistols instead of the Glocks and magnums that are normally issued? With this level of accuracy, it should be easy to hit an knife-wielding assailant in the fleshy part of the leg at 20 or so feet.
You hit a man in the fleshy part of the leg, and I guarantee he is going to drop like a sack of potatoes. Once you can't put any weight on one leg, you're going down. Then the assailant could be taken to the hospital instead of the morgue, and while he's there, get him the mental help he needs as well.
I read that the pistols used in Olympic shooting contests can shoot a quarter or even a dime at about 100 feet. Why not supply police with one of these pistols instead of the Glocks and magnums that are normally issued? With this level of accuracy, it should be easy to hit an knife-wielding assailant in the fleshy part of the leg at 20 or so feet.
You hit a man in the fleshy part of the leg, and I guarantee he is going to drop like a sack of potatoes. Once you can't put any weight on one leg, you're going down. Then the assailant could be taken to the hospital instead of the morgue, and while he's there, get him the mental help he needs as well.
This post CANNOT serious. There are so many flaws with your post I don’t even know where to begin.
How about let’s start with Olympic pistol uses .22 caliber round?
I see Olympic Judoka throws people around without any effort. Why not supply cops with Judo kimonos so they can throw people around without resorting to a taser like Judo in the Olympic?
So this thread was resurrected. (Sigh) OK, I'll bite. I've ha a somewhat taxing day though so I'll make this plain. There is NO , zero, zilch., nada standard handgun round that guarantees a single round instant fight stopping ability with a hit anywhere on the human body except through the brain.
That is just plain indisputable fact. Standard handgun chamberings are very poor fight stoppers. That's something that hasn't changed since handguns were invented.
And I do not agree at all with this "stop or nrutralize" premise. Not one bit. If it has come to where I am aiming a firearm at someone my intent will be to kill. Not wound warn or anything else.
If I have been forced to draw and aim a firearm it will be for lethal purposes. Because if its come to that there is lethal intent toward mine or me at play.
If someone had it in their head that aiming a firearm at someone can intentionally end any other way has has that sort of faith in their shooting by all means have at it.
But if it my loved ones and/or my fate on the line I will shoot to kill.
I offer a quote from Fight Like a Mother by Shannon Watts, who is founder of 'Moms Demand Action,' and is an expert on gun matters:
Quote:
One of the police shootings of an unarmed African American...Stephon Clark...Police said they though Stephon had a gun...But he was holding only a cell phone....
[H]e was shot eight times. That is shooting to kill--not seeking to de-escalate the situation....
Stphon's grandmother said: "They didn't have to kill him like that...Why didn't you shoot him in the arm? Shoot him in the leg?...Why?"
Even months later, her simple question is in my mind: Why? (p 201)
Bottom line here, not all experts agree that shooting in the leg is an inadvisable tactic. Again, I would argue that if you hit an assailant in the fleshy part of the leg, he'll drop like a sack of potatoes. Then he can be taken to the hospital, not the morgue.
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Why don't police aim for the leg ?
