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This farce of an impeachment is setting a dangerous precedent whereas any partisan House can call for impeachment for just not liking election results.
If you can't see the problem with this then you're part of the problem.
And if the accused can prevent witness testimony and documents related to his impeachment from being shown and people approve of this behavior, they are part of the problem.
With all of the very strong opinions from the left about how strong their evidence is surrounding impeachment, I expected more of the Dems to predict removal.
Either they don't really believe in their case, or believe the Republican Senate will flush it down the toilet no matter what, and the whole thing will have been a huge waste of time and money....other than smearing Trump which was likely the objective from the outset. Removal was never the objective imho.
Impeachment is the duty of the House if they feel that the President warrants it. The House felt that it was warranted so that is where we are. It only takes a simple majority to impeach but takes a super-majority to convict. As history has shown, it is easier to impeach than it is to convict.
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Originally Posted by beach43ofus
I think the next Democrat President will be Imeached and smeared just like Trump has been as payback, if the Pubs control the House. The Dems opened the Impeachment door now, so it will likely become a common smear tactic used by both party's, whichever party controls the House when a new President from the opposing Party is elected.
I doubt it. Trump has crossed the line and many if not most Republicans know it. That is why they are fighting like hell to keep further evidence out of the Senate trial. Remember that most Republicans detested Trump in 2015 and only got on board with him when it became obvious that they had to for political survival. A poll last year predicted that if the Senate trial vote was anonymous, Trump would likely be convicted. These facts tell me that they won't convict not because they think he is innocent but because it would be political suicide.
And if the accused can prevent witness testimony and documents related to his impeachment from being shown and people approve of this behavior, they are part of the problem.
That's what the Judicial Branch is for. The partisan Democrats decided not to go that route. That's on them.
There isn’t any case , none at all. It is simply just another chapter in a long list of efforts to remove the POTUs from Office. It started before the election, continued to the first steps to change the votes of the Electors, then to Lawsuits and challenges based on opinions by left leaning academia and MSM talking heads. And then of course, was the 2 1/2 year Russian Collusion Hoax. The fact that Nancy still believes in it, incredibly she mentioned it in her speech the other day. After their star witness failed miserably, they still can’t give it up. They just can’t come to grips that they are not in the White House.
None of the allegations contained in the Articles actually have a Constitutional basis to remove the POTUS. Not one. The two articles are allegations based on opinion of his conduct. Opinion of conduct is not listed in the Constitution as grounds for removal.
The Framers avoided this standard of judging guilt , and they feared that a select portion, a mob if you will, would seek to gain power if they controlled a minority piece of the three branches.
You really can’t blame the Democrats in a way. These are the only cards left they are holding.
They have hit roadblock after roadblock in each and every attempt prior to this. They have been shut down because of the safeguards put in place by the Framers.
There isn’t any “ fix” in the Senate. It is part of the same level playing field of safeguards put in place by the Framers. The truth is, the Democrats just have not come up with something better. Something that sticks. Something compelling that can be embraced, believed and strongly agreed upon to take such historical drastic action.
Late inning interviews by unvetted actors are just the latest shenanigans by Dems to muddy the waters. After all, Americans had to live through bombshell after bombshell, breaking news after breaking news, and hanging by the thread as Adam Schiff ran in front of a camera each and every time . He never quite came up with that” Evidence in plain sight claim” did he? That’s all it would have taken. And he continued to tease America, and got away with it.
And the proof that the entire Impeachment was a sham, they allow him to be in a a Ceremonial March to the Upper Chamber, Like he is some sort of conquering hero. Another Dog and Pony Show for the media.
Some posters here say that the Framers never dreamed of a POTUS like this one. That is an unknown. But what becomes clearer day after day, is that the Framers not only perhaps dreamed, but vividly knew that a Political Party would conduct themselves as we have seen the last 3 years.
And the absolute Proof is that this latest effort will fail, as did all the previous ones .
Nancy, Adam, Jerry, Chuck , Eric and the rest of the gang just couldn’t outsmart the Framers.
You used a lot of words but don't offer much more than bald conclusions punctuated with a few comments maligning Democrats. Light on substance, heavy on hollow talking points.
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