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Old 01-26-2020, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
They were indeed lawfully issued.

But regardless, can't help but wonder why Trump won't hand over the evidence that proves his innocence.
Your communist desire for the accused to have to prove their innocence is pathetically UN~AMERICAN!
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Old 01-26-2020, 09:39 AM
 
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Pelosi's decision to delay handing over the articles of impeachment appears to have been a wise one.

More evidence has come to light.

Polls are showing that 70% of Americans want to see witnesses testify and evidence presented at an actual trial.
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Old 01-26-2020, 09:41 AM
 
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Your communist desire for the accused to have to prove their innocence is pathetically UN~AMERICAN!
Insults aside, in the U.S. the accused do indeed have to prove their innocence.

Perhaps in Russia, "juries" and judges reach conclusions without any evidence being presented. But in the U.S. that's fairly standard practice.

What country do you live in?
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Old 01-26-2020, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Pelosi's decision to delay handing over the articles of impeachment appears to have been a wise one.

More evidence has come to light.

Polls are showing that 70% of Americans want to see witnesses testify and evidence presented at an actual trial.
Polls showed Hillary by a landslide, lol.
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Old 01-26-2020, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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No they didn’t

It’s not the Senate’s job to basically be the Democrats election campaign
I totally agree with that, however, it is the Senate's job to conduct a fair trial and honor their oath of impartiality. Anything less, is a cover up. Let Boltin be subpoenaed. Let the documents surface, better yet. Take the phone call off of the super secret classified server and let it be heard. Congress is not asking for the Senate to do their work. They are asking them to do their job and be thorough and fair about it. If new information surfaces after the impeachment vote in the house, is the Senate supposed to ignore it? I don't think so, nor does 70% of we the people, Republican's included.

Look, you can want to believe that Trump is perfect, but he's not. You can want to believe that he did nothing wrong and obstruction of a co-equal branch is fine, but it isn't. The only way to make an honest, informed decision is for everything, and I do mean everything to come out of the shadows and into the light of day. The Senate must do their job without trying to cover up the information.
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Old 01-26-2020, 09:43 AM
 
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Congress blew off a President having oral sex with a 20 year old intern in the Oval Office.. then lying in court about it.

What's you point?

It was consensual sex. And Congress didn't blow it off -- he was impeached in court. The Senate brushed it off.

AND I thought Clinton was a pig too.

This isn't ranking who is worse......
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Old 01-26-2020, 09:43 AM
 
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Polls showed Hillary by a landslide, lol.
What does this have to do with the topic of evidence presented at a trial?

If this is an attempt at diversion?

If so, ask for better material.
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Old 01-26-2020, 09:45 AM
 
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No, it's a load of FACTS that the dumb Dems forgot to consider!
Thought exercise: Hillary Clinton is currently President and is under investigation for corruption. In April 2019, months before a Ukraine scandal comes to light, Clinton stands on the White House lawn and says, "We're fighting all the subpoenas" in an unrelated probe that is not part of a formal impeachment investigation. Clinton's lawyers explain that they're not invoking immunity or privilege, they're simply fighting "congressional harassment" (see https://www.chicagotribune.com/natio...424-story.html).

The Republican-led House later learns about an issue involving Ukraine aid and issues subpoenas. Clinton now says she's instructed the entire executive branch not to cooperate because the House didn't take a vote before starting an impeachment inquiry. After the House takes the vote to legitimize the impeachment inquiry, Clinton says she still not going to cooperate.

Do you give Clinton the benefit of the doubt and defend her legal prerogative to resist the "invalid" subpoenas? Or do you think back to Clinton's April 2019 promise to stonewall any and all Congressional subpoenas, and decide that the latest excuse is just another pretext to avoid turning over damaging information?
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Old 01-26-2020, 09:46 AM
 
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... It won't be fair.....
Yawn.... i.e.
  • Democrats - Good
  • Republicans - Bad
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Old 01-26-2020, 09:46 AM
 
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What does this have to do with the topic of evidence presented at a trial?

If this is an attempt at diversion?

If so, ask for better material.
No need to divert from something no one is paying attention to
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