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As Joe has admitted in a public forum of quid pro quo to having Ukranian Investigators fired looking into his corrupt business dealings or Ukraine wasnt getting the billion dollars. https://youtu.be/vCSF3reVr10
Due to the hoax impeachment of Trump, this sets precedence for Joe Biden to be impeached immediately. So should he drop out?
If the country is dumb enough to vote for Biden thinking he will some big improvement over Trump then they get what they deserve I say.
the house and the democrats have been arguing that High Crimes and Misdemeanors can mean anything they say it does, since neither of the things they accuse Trump of are actually crimes. If you think what Trump did are crimes post the relevant Statute, nobody else has.
By that definition if the Republicans take the house and keep the Senate and Biden wins, the Republicans can then Impeach Biden for whatever the heck they want to and call some action he has taken a "high crime and misdemnenor". This is why it is so important how this pans out I am a firm believer that you need an actual legally defined High Crime and Misdemeanor to impeach as to do otherwise is to sow Chaos.
...I have carefully researched the origin of the phrase "high crimes and misdemeanors" and its meaning to the Framers, and found that the key to understanding it is the word "high". It does not mean "more serious". It refers to those punishable offenses that only apply to high persons, that is, to public officials, those who, because of their official status, are under special obligations that ordinary persons are not under, and which could not be meaningfully applied or justly punished if committed by ordinary persons.
Under the English common law tradition, crimes were defined through a legacy of court proceedings and decisions that punished offenses not because they were prohibited by statutes, but because they offended the sense of justice of the people and the court. Whether an offense could qualify as punishable depended largely on the obligations of the offender, and the obligations of a person holding a high position meant that some actions, or inactions, could be punishable if he did them, even though they would not be if done by an ordinary person....
(emphasis mine) https://www.constitution.org/cmt/high_crimes.htm
There are tons of other articles that discuss the phrase, and even Lindsey Graham and Alan Dershowitz both said that no crime was necessary for impeachment back in 1998. Funny that they are singing a different tune today.
Alexander Hamilton addressed abuse of power with regards to impeachment specifically in Federalist Paper #65:
...The subjects of its (impeachment's) jurisdiction are those offenses which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or, in other words, from the abuse or violation of some public trust. They are of a nature which may with peculiar propriety be denominated POLITICAL, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself...
Answer please: EXACTLY WHAT WAS HUNTER BIDEN DOING ON THAT BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND WHY DID HE GET THE POSITION?
Nothing. And that's not a crime.
General James Mathis was on the board of a cutting edge blood diagnostic tetch company. No one said boo about that then or now. Don't act like that's not the way boards have always been run.
Actually no. Now that Democrats have lowered the bar for impeachment it should be expected Biden her impeached if he somehow became president. You opened this box Democrats
Talk to Ken Starr about boxes. He's the expert opener.
Of course Biden won't be impeached for the same reason that Hilary was allowed to continue her run for the white house even after Comey spelled out the charges against her, charges that would have had anyone of us regular schmoes arrested, prosecuted and no doubt still sitting in prison to this day.
I think Trump had the right to inquire about wrong doing by a person that may become the next President. I think we all have the right to know if a candidate is crooked.
I guess what Trump should have done was make the call about the aide, hung up and dialed again to talk about the potential international crimes of one of our elected officials. We have the right to know.
<snicker> After years of investigation, including sworn testimony by Hillary and her staff, Republicans came up with a handful of warm squat. Comey probably cost her the election by announcing he was reopening a closed investigation two weeks before the election, but he still didn't find anything.
Now it's your turn. Put Trump and his staff under oath. You may notice that not a single one of his defenders has been willing to testify under oath, but all of his accusers have. Face it, the guy is a crook, running a mobster presidency.
The same could be said in spades about Hussein Obama. He weaponized numerous federal agencies to attack his political enemies. He ginned up racial hatred and started the war on police. He got a pass for being half black, and his academic record is sealed because he was an affirmative action admission. He has nothing good to show for his eight year presidency. But he never stutters when the teleprompter is working.
You can't keep everything secret. He was editor of the Harvard Law Review in his first year of law school, president of the journal in his second year, and graduated magna *** laude. You can't keep stuff like that secret.
If he was an affirmative action admission, he is the epitome of why we need affirmative action. There is outstanding talent out there getting screwed because of poverty and skin color.
As Joe has admitted in a public forum of quid pro quo to having Ukranian Investigators fired looking into his corrupt business dealings or Ukraine wasnt getting the billion dollars. https://youtu.be/vCSF3reVr10
Due to the hoax impeachment of Trump, this sets precedence for Joe Biden to be impeached immediately. So should he drop out?
As Joe has admitted in a public forum of quid pro quo to having Ukranian Investigators fired looking into his corrupt business dealings or Ukraine wasnt getting the billion dollars. https://youtu.be/vCSF3reVr10
Due to the hoax impeachment of Trump, this sets precedence for Joe Biden to be impeached immediately. So should he drop out?
If you read a little more, you'd know that's incorrect.
Biden was acting in concert with several other countries, and in fact the actions he was urging would have imperiled his son, not helped him.
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Well then explain it to us rubes, please. Share your superior intellect with us, but use little words so we don't have to break out the dictionary.
And I know this isn't germane to the conversation, but I keep thinking about the pallets of cash Hussein Obama shipped to Iran in the dead of night. I guess that's okay because Hussein Obama was the first half black president and he had a "scandal free" administration, right?
No doubts that Biden was involved in Obama's scandal free scandals. All they'd have to do is investigate those scandal free scandals to find a reason to impeach Biden. And, they might get a twofer and find enough to impeach Obama, too. Yes, per some "leading experts on impeachment and Constitutional law" it might be possible to impeach a former president. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...-be-impeached/
Heck, they might get a threefer and impeach Biden's VP -- Hillary 'there's nothing wrong with being second' Clinton.
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if Trump had been removed from office, Biden would be removed within 6 months, but there are two fallacies ..
1. Biden will never be President
2. Trump will never be removed from office.
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