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Old 01-29-2020, 08:14 PM
 
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New Yorkers have forgotten how much of a dump their city was in the 70s through the early 90s. After tough mayors cleaned house and a bunch of hipsters from the middle country moved in following- it seems history is destined to repeat itself.
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Old 01-29-2020, 08:14 PM
 
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I say Good for those guys. NO ONE should be obeying or complying with drug laws anyway!


If you support the DEA and the drug laws, you are supporting the foreign drug cartels.
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Old 01-29-2020, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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He changed the rules on bail, so if you get arrested, and are too poor to make bail, the bail is waived and you get set loose back on the city. They are basically going through a turnstile.

So basically, a lot of criminals who used to be sitting in jail cells, are now perpetually on the street.
I hate de Blasio but he didn't change anything. Stick to the facts -- the bail reform law was passed by the state legislature.
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Old 01-29-2020, 08:57 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I hate de Blasio but he didn't change anything. Stick to the facts -- the bail reform law was passed by the state legislature.
You stick to the facts. De Blasio was totally behind it.

He even went as far as ordering it in effect, weeks before it was officially in effect.

If you dont believe me, just google it. You will find many articles confirming it.
https://www.law.com/newyorklawjourna...ghtly-defined/

He even went as far as offering gifts in exchange for showing up for court dates.
https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2019/11...s-gifts-court/

And here is am article about it already causing problems in December when it was implemented even before it officially went into effect.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-streets.html

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Old 01-30-2020, 12:09 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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I'm sorry that you're so ignorant about statistics that you don't understand that you're not supposed to look at numbers only covering a couple of years. Go compare the figures to crime statistics of the 1970s or 1980s. This is why Trump really doesn't deserve much credit yet.

Also, do you understand how percentages work? If there were 100 crimes last year, and this year there were an additional 2, that would be a tiny jump of 2%. But if there were 2 crimes last year and 2 additional ones this year, that would be a 100% jump. So one reason you imagine the increase to be high is because the actual crime rate is so low.

I notice you ignore the big drop in murder and rape, too.

You're expecting too much attention to detail from this poster. Followers of the current administration are good at cherry-picking small bits of data that support their agenda and ignoring everything else.
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Old 01-30-2020, 12:51 AM
 
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You stick to the facts. De Blasio was totally behind it.

He even went as far as ordering it in effect, weeks before it was officially in effect.

If you dont believe me, just google it. You will find many articles confirming it.
https://www.law.com/newyorklawjourna...ghtly-defined/

He even went as far as offering gifts in exchange for showing up for court dates.
https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2019/11...s-gifts-court/

And here is am article about it already causing problems in December when it was implemented even before it officially went into effect.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-streets.html
New york and california deserve everything that happens. All of these policies that go to help very few are going to have massive consequences. You get what you vote for.
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Old 01-30-2020, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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He changed the rules on bail, so if you get arrested, and are too poor to make bail, the bail is waived and you get set loose back on the city. They are basically going through a turnstile.

So basically, a lot of criminals who used to be sitting in jail cells, are now perpetually on the street.
That was NY State that changed the rules on bail as have some other places around the country. It was an attempt to address inequities but it has created problems.

from your article:



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New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio said in Albany on Tuesday that he would support allowing the state’s judges to use a “tightly defined” measure of a defendant’s “dangerousness,” or threat to public safety, to decide if they should be incarcerated before trial as part of legislation to overhaul the state’s current system on cash bail.
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Old 01-30-2020, 05:59 AM
 
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That was NY State that changed the rules on bail as have some other places around the country. It was an attempt to address inequities but it has created problems.
That the rich are less affected by the bail system is a no-sh*t-sherlock moment. That doing this stunt would increase violent crime is also a no-sh*t-sherlock moment. People lack common sense.

I'm not a rich man. If pinched, I'll be digging deep in my pockets for bail money. But, I still rather that, than violent offenders being released into the general population out of some abstract and lofty goal to strive for equality which doesn't exist. There is no such thing as equality in mother nature. It will never happen.
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Old 01-30-2020, 06:23 AM
 
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I notice you ignore the big drop in murder and rape, too.
Actually, murders were up by about 8% last year.
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Old 01-30-2020, 07:30 AM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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Bring back stop-question-and-frisk program. Problem solved.
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